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Pathfinder Historical Consultants

Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:59 am

Dave Berry of Pathfinder Historical Consultants does jackets. Here is his link.


Click on the Nose Art Tab


http://www.pathfinderhistoricalconsultants.com/


Tell him Jiggers sent you!

Rosemary Dery's work from late 1980s

Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:34 pm

Randy,
Here's a shot of my jacket next to my father's SNJ-5. Rosemay Dery did this jacket in the late 80s. Great artwork on your F-15 by the way.

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Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:35 am

Her work is really gorgeous. Actually, ALL of the work that has been recommended by WIXers has been simply fantastic. There are some really talented folks out there!

Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:15 am

Hey Randy, any pics of your aircraft finished? Looks great!

Why is your checkerboard pink though? :shock: :lol:

Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:17 pm

The design was supposed to be a tribute to Gentile, as well as an update for the current conflict. I intentionally made the eagle a little more angry looking and a bit less cartoonish. I was limited by the size of the access door, so I couldn't put the big checkerboard ID panel on there...I chose to do a miniature representation of it instead.

I painted it over the course of two or three nights out on the flightline using a stash of paint pens that maintenance used to mark equipment. Unfortunately, as you'll see, the paints weren't that great of quality!

Here it is after I first penciled out the lines freehand...
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Later on that morning I laid down the black outlines and started filling in some of the whites. The jet flew that morning, so I had to stop for the time being.

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Here's a shot of her the next day after I finished filling in all the colors. Note that the checkerboard pattern isn't on there.

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A day or two later I obtained the other colors I needed and finished it up. Here's what it looked like right after I finished it. Note the color of the checkerboard (as in, it's actually red).

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Next, the shot of me touching up the colors. Over the course of about a week, the harsh sand and sunlight had all ready taken a toll on the pigment and it began to fade. The reds had turned to pinks, as you can tell. This was taken on 13 April '03, and I originally painted it on the 6th, 7th, and 8th of April.

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Here's the final shot of the noseart...August '03 at the Abbotsford airshow. I had left the squadron by this point, but a friend shot this pic and sent it to me. Notice how faded it's all become by this point, only a couple months down the road. I understand that only a week or two after this shot, it was painted over all together.

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Finally, a comparison with the original:

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Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:25 pm

A friend of mine told me a while ago that he found someone in Cancun that would copy anything onto leather patches for short money. He had a bunch of smaller patches made on his last trip and was planning another one for the next winter. Two birds with one stone, I guess!

Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:34 pm

Randy,

Those are some great "in progress" shots! Thanks for sharing them. That is a bummer about the durability of the paint that you had access to.

Looks like we have something in common, if you have a Wade Meyers original hanging on your wall! :wink:

Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:49 pm

Yes, Randy owns the original "Pressing West at FRISCO" ... you didn't bring it to the UK, did you? I tol you I'd "hol" it for you while you wuz gone, homz ... :lol:

Before they went over, Hacker asked me for some "heritage" nose art shots. I sent a bunch to him, and IIRC, "Shangri-La II" was the only 336 EFS jet to use 'actual' 336 FS art. In my "FRISCO" file I still have our correspondence from "over there". We were then in the planning stages of what became "FRISCO". In one email, he described the 8th April 2003 mission, and in there a line jumped out at me, ". . . and then we pressed west at FRISCO". Bingo. MAD DUCK IV and SL II "Pressing West" would be it. Those who know my art know I like the "anticipation" element - it's very powerful.

As mentioned above, Hacker used cheap "paint pens" with low pigment content to "paint" the art. Yeech! Not yeech on the results, but yeech in using the darn things! Hell w' that!

As you can tell, Randy's a darn good artist - glad he's flying fighters, or he'd be stealing my commissions!!

Speaking of that, I could probably illustrate an entire book with all the OIF "F-15E" reference material I got from Hacker (including video!) - the collectors, especially those who have "BTDT", are indispensable to military artists - I really need to do another F-15E OIF painting for myself if anything ... maybe a "heritage" flight of SL and SL II in formation like the Heritage Flight guys do it ... that would be kewl.

Wade

Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:28 am

Does anyone know a source of the round leather patches that are unpainted if you want to apint your own?
Thanks.

Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:07 pm

Does anyone know a source of the round leather patches that are unpainted if you want to apint your own?
Thanks.


I got some at a local leather shop. They would cut patches of basically any size and shape. I had some leather jacket name tags cut and stamped by the shop.

Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:56 am

Thanks,Ryan.

Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:02 pm

Chicoartist wrote:I really need to do another F-15E OIF painting for myself if anything ... maybe a "heritage" flight of SL and SL II in formation like the Heritage Flight guys do it ... that would be kewl.


I'm absolutely dying to see that one!!

Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:13 pm

Randy Haskin wrote:I'm absolutely dying to see that one!!


The cool thing would be to show SL the Elder just as she looked in WWII - paint chips here and there, etc.

Stand by ... I may add it to my "dream" queue. It wouldn't be hard at all. Gotta get some commissions out of the way first.

Wade
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