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There's also Report from the Aleutians, a not-quite-hour-long documentary filmed just before the retaking of Kiska and Attu. It's got some hair-raising footage of 11thAF planes dealing with the conditions, such as P-39s trying to take off through foot-deep puddles on the runway--you can only see the spinner; all else is water. Available streaming from various sites, including YouTube, Video.Google.com, and such.

One of the late, great John Huston's first films.

Details and download links here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Report_from_the_Aleutians

Thumbnails from the film here: http://www.archive.org/movies/thumbnail ... _Aleutians

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Just because, having talked about it, I had to go see it again ...

Here's a view of that P-39 I was talking about:

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In the film, they're launching a raid, and one plane after another does this exact thing. B-24's, then fighters, as above. They all plow through these puddles, and you wonder if they shouldn't just use flying boats instead.

P-38's get into the act, too:

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Go see it for yourself--it's worth the 50 minutes-or-so out of your life. It all looks pretty appalling to me, what these boys are enduring. I'm told, however, that they themselves considered it to be a sugar-coat job, not even beginning to describe the misery of life in the Alaskan Islands. Man.

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Well hey, WIXers, it's been a while since we've had a proper maintenance report, hasn't it? And yet maintenance continues to be performed on ol' Hot Stuff, whether it gets written up or not.

This whole being-laid-up-in-a-cast gig seems to be having a detrimental effect on the work ethic of IndyJen. You'd think that she prefers laying about, eating ice cream and watching old airplane movies to gimping about the ramp, annoying the mechanics.

Well, you might think that, but it ain't exactly entirely true. There is a lot of pleasure to be gained in gimping about, annoying the mechanics. And since they keep on coming to get me, and hauling the wheelchair for me, why wouldn't I be out there?

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That's a view of a good portion of yesterday's goings-on: test runs of both engines, but especially No. 1, which had some adjustments done on the prop before I got out there.

Long Tall Glen, doing the runs with Machine Shop Gaylon in the right seat, reports that the numbers appear to be dialed in, so that was a good day's work, maintenance-wise.

Operationally, we were intending to have a training hop, for Glen's benefit (type rating checkride coming soon) and to move our group of crew chief trainees one more square down the training track.

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There they are, in the course of their detailed preflight inspection, the first ever to be performed with the aid of the highly detailed and excellent in most respects Crew Chief's Checklist, produced by yours truly.

I've been wanting to get these procedures codified and standardized for some long while now, and this current bout of cripple-dom is providing all the "leisure" time one could wish for. I am pretty happy with the result, and I believe that it will improve the lot of our crew chiefs

Writing that sort of thing is what I do for a living. But I don't often get to browbeat the intended audience, and force them to use the product!

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Charging up the brake accumulator (400 psi is what we're after) with nitrogen are Gaylon and PJ. With the plaid shorts look, she has clearly got it goin' on, doesn't she?

We also took on board just over 300 gallons of fuel, preparing for the flight that didn't happen. Right now with three guys learning the ins and outs of crew-chiefery, there isn't much hands-on work for the old hands. You learn by doing, and so we're just pointing and talking. Which is kind of funny, because our "trainees" have spent countless hours working on this bird. But still, we must do our due diligence.

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And there's a look at our pre-oil crew. It having been two weeks since we've run engines, we did the pre-oil. Our Gaylon-made Pre-Oil Rig and Contraption uses an old r-2800 hydraulic pump, driven by a half-inch drill, and hose enough to connect to the pre-oil fitting in the nacelle.

I should have gotten a picture of the thing--I'm sure it's in some of the previous pictures I've posted--but that was finally the thing that I could do, out there, from the wheelchair: run the pump. So I did, which made picture-taking difficult.

The engine gets pulled through a whole bunch more times when pre-oiling that when it's just pulled through. You have to move the prop to get the scavenge oil pump to turn.

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Another part of the preparations: we've had rain lately, and water will collect in the bottom cowl panel. I suppose you could leave it, and maybe steam-clean the engine as it boils off, but we always dump it.

Taking off a few strategic panels along with this one will give you a good look in the nacelle. However, our friends the birdies seem to be more interested in the empennage nowadays. They lost an egg for their troubles, unfortunately for them. But you can't be living in the empennage, birdies!

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Parked on our ramp was the Yankee Lady, who is in town hopping rides.

That airplane is responsible for me being here, actually. About six years ago, she came to Indy to hop rides, and I went out there to feast my eyes on her and on the other interesting airplanes there as well. One of those other airplanes, a blue one, was parked akmost exactly where she is parked at this very moment. I wandered over to chat with those Harpoon people ... and was trapped from that moment on.

This old Harpoon is like a La Brea Tar Pit of fascination and endearment and worry and toil. I don't reckon I will ever escape this plane. It is a lot like being married, but oilier. And noisier, and smokier!

So anyhow, it was disappointing to not fly--just not enough hours in the day, sometimes. Nothing to prevent the flight in the end except for people's free time running out. She's good to go, and if crew scheduling can be miraculously worked out, there could yet be training hops this week.

Now PJ and I are heading for Pensacola, where we will infest the environs, particularly the Naval Aviation Museum, and you know we will have a grand time. I'll go dark till we get back, but see you then with the next report of Hot Stuff's doin's!

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Well, actually, PJ points out to me that the B-17 there in the picture is "Liberty Belle". Not "Yankee Lady."

"Liberty Belle."

Well drat it. But I still think that is the very same plane as the visiting bomber from six years ago.

This probably means I owe PJ some beer.

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Hello WIXers,

Not so much a maintenance report this time; rather, a trip report for the most part ...

Communicating with Long Tall Glen Thursday, I can tell you that there was maintenance performed on Hot Stuff, and additional test runs have the engines and props dialed in, but now the left generator is acting up again. Typical for the old girl, and a good day's work for the boys who were out there.

But PJ and I took advantage of my light-duty chit, and got us a 96, and had a swoop down to NAS Beach, and it was good.

That is early-to-mid-70's Marine Corps jargon for "as long as I'm all crutch-bound and unable to turn wrenches, PJ and I took off for four days and hopped a plane for Pensacola." And it was good.

Two and a half days in the museum seems like a good start, now that's we're back. It is a heck of a good museum, and now, having finally been to Pensacola, I see why it's such a desirable and popular duty station.

Along with looking at extremely excellent displays of airplanes and related things, we spent a day in the library/archives, searching out everything we could find on PV's, Fleet Air Wing Four, and the like. We got some good results.

But the pictures are all of airplanes, and other picturesque things like that. I'll share a few of them with you. We'll resume our regularly-scheduled Hot Stuff maintenance reports with the next post ...

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Of course, we did not hesitate to talk the leg off anyone who pretended to be interested, regaling them with everything they ever could have wanted to know about Harpoons, Hot Stuff, the Aleutians campaign, and et cetera.

The people invariably wanted to know if we'd seen the Museum's Harpoon, and in fact we got ourselves out there to see here as soon as we could possibly do so. That's her, up above. She doesn't fly, and the nature of the tour didn't let us get out to get a good look, but she's got her proper antennas, and the mount for the cockpit radar display was visible through the windscreen, and the gun-camera blister is there. And we lust for those pylons and external tanks.

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Interesting, and somewhat amusing, for us were the various placards accompanying the museum's several R-2800 display engines. The placards include mentions/pictures of the airplanes that used the engine. To their credit, the authors included PV-2's in that list. But a close look at the Harpoon picture (lower right corner) showed us: that's our plane!

Well, we enjoyed that a lot. Little pictures of Hot Stuff, all over the place! We did not mind pointing that out at all.

The sign out in front of the main entrance, advertising the flight-line tram-tour, included a picture of their Harpoon. PJ and I just enjoyed seeing PV's be paid any attention at all, and ate it up with a spoon.

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We also ate up with a spoon the delicious root-beer floats to be had in the "Cubi [Point] Cafe," which contains memorabilia of about four decades of WESTPAC cruises from every conceivable squadron and detachment from every era between Korea to the present.

We did not see any representation of Fleet Air Wing Four, so we gave the barkeep a couple patches, which as you see she enshrined very nicely, tucked in between the bar mirror and a flight helmet.

The museum includes some incredibly ingenious displays, and certain planes that make one cry out in little yelps of history-geek ecstacy, such as the SBD in the "flight deck" display. The plane is a Midway veteran, raised from the bottom of Lake Michigan.

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There are a lot of ingeniously packaged diorama-type displays, that give you a nice look and feel, up close and personal.

There's Guadalcanal, where they're doing their best with a tired and beat-up Cactus Air Force F4F:

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There's a completely brilliant evocation of another F4F, shown still at the bottom of Lake Michigan, which is where the plane was previously located ...

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There's a very nice cutaway Catalina fuselage, showing a well-appointed interior.

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PJ, helpful as always, went over to annoy a couple fellows who were working on David McCampbell's Hellcat:

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She reports that the fellow working in the wheel well needed a safety briefing but didn't get it, apparently. He had no hands! This probably explained why he didn't seem to be making much progress.

Anyhow, the National Museum of Naval Aviation is a top-flight museum. They're digging the foundation for an expansion, which clearly won't be big enough to get more than a few of their "outside" collection indoors, but they'll have to enclose an awful lot of floor space to get 'em all.

I bet could suggest a few candidates for this next hall, and an exhibit theme or two ...

That's it for this time. See you next time,

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Great pics!

That hangar deck display had an SBD when I visited the museum in '05, and the Hellcat was hanging from the ceiling. I thought I'd heard the SBD had gone to another museum.

Here are some shots I got of the Pensecola PV-2. We took the bus tour, but went back the next day for the Blue Angels practice, and they let us walk across the restoration ramp to the viewing area, allowing the opportunity for some closeups.

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Thanks for those Harpoon pics, Steve. The Blues were out of town all week, so we couldn't get off the bus. It was about the only disappointment we had.

They seem to have plenty of SBDs now--14 of them, someone told me. Three of them awaiting restoration were visible to us on the ramp out there, plus the restored one indoors.

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Hey WIXers,

A quick maintenance= report from yesterday, via Long Tall Glen ...

Yesterday was Roy the Electrical Guru's day to shine, that's for sure. Just about every squawk being addressed was an electrical one, so he had his hands in every project. And the people kicked the behinds of every one of the problems, too. A good productive day's work!

The left landing light has been giving us trouble for a while--extends and retracts, but the bulb's inop. Fixed, and I hear that it wasn't the bulb at all, but something internal to the unit.

The left generator began acting balky again as of the most recent test run so investigation occurred there, too. Bad connection in the big cannon plug, identified Roy, and that's another ex-problem. The team pulled and checked the generator cable on the other engine, too, just to be sure.

That's about the size of things for this time. The usual Wednesday maintenance day is tomorrow, so more news soon,

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Here's some pics of the Pensacola PV-2....N7459C...15-1196...37230...the 196th PV-2 built...My bird "Annie" was the 200th built.
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In the hangar at Buffalo, Wy. Getting her ready for the flight to Pensacola.
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On the ramp at Buffalo
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Enroute to Pensacola
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The owner, Connie Hirth in turret
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Pensacola in sight...


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Awesome pics, Gary. Thanks for sharing.

After all the hardship Connie had gone through just prior to this delivery flight, I can only hope she found a little peace in knowing that thousands of people in years to come would be able to see a PV-2 in the Navy museum, thanks to the efforts of herself, her late husband, and the guys and gals working back in Buffalo to make this all happen.

Very impressive and yet sorrowful tale at the same time. I still wonder if the PV would be flying in tanker service here in the US today had it not been for the culmination of events that resulted from John's final flight in the firefighting run back east. John's untimely passing brought a lot of unmerited scrutiny and federal focus on a fine airplane.

That delivery flight to Pensacola truly marked the end of an era. Neat to see the pics, yet a sad event.


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Great pics, Gary.

We're about to go out to the ramp and launch Hot Stuff for Peoria, which is where we'll be spending the weekend. Anyone in the area, stop by and say hi!

Gary, we can fix you up with that engine-can half as soon as we get back, and you can drop by and figure out how to transport it. We'll trade it to you for a toilet seat.

(Pooner, Gary needs a toilet seat to trade. Can you fix him up?)

And Gary, we still have a few engine mounts for you ...

Happy airshows everyone,

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Thanks IndyJen!....Looks like I'll be heading east tomorrow...Maybe I can manage to cross paths with ya'll...
I know Pooners is just sitting on that seat...will try to pry him off!..LOL!
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Geez! Tough crowd here... a person's got to have a favorite place to sit in the PV - why'd ya'll gotta go and pick on mine? You know, that fire extinguisher bracket there on the door bulkhead could very well perform double duty as a magazine holder for a little reading material... :lol:

I'll be on lookabout for you, Gary. I suspect that Don Howell down at HAVECO in Tucson may find us all a few more of the B-52 "bombsight lids" as he goes through some of his stuff, and the cat is now out of the bag as this was to be my Christmas present to a few of ya'll to outfit some of the Harpoons out there... they were the pretty white ones in my posted pictures many pages back.

Toilet seat lids must be in demand these days. Ed Packard at KFFZ moved their airplane - N7268C - from the airport's dirt storage lot to their hangar two weeks ago, and reported that the one in this airplane had gone missing, along with the main data plate set, some control wheels, an entry ladder, some spare generators, starters, reverse current relays and some voltage regulators stored inside the fuselage. Seems as if the souvenir hunters have struck again, so let's all keep eyes peeled for a data plate set for BuNo. 31729 (both manufacturer's plate and acceptance plate from the throttle quadrant) as they have to be out there somewhere. While Ed was most annoyed with the data plate theft, I took the toilet seat thing more than just a little personal as I'd hoped to incorporate that into N7454C after crowing about the merits of original lids....

Hot Stuff crew, best of luck to everyone in Peoria. He's to hoping you'll have a money-making stop and come home at least with a few dollars more than it took to get there when all of the receipts are tallied. In today's economy that's all we can ask.


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What is the twin-engine airplane hanging above the Midway SBD? :?:


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hahnej wrote:
What is the twin-engine airplane hanging above the Midway SBD? :?:


a Interstate TDR-1 drone if I am guessing right
http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/interstate_tdr-1.php

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