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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:36 pm 
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Fouga23 wrote:
We are going to go with a semi gloss/Satin. While they were painted flat, we went with the semigloss to prolong the paint finish (I do not want to have to ever paint this thing again) and to allow easy cleaning. However, I have been told it will not be overly glossy.



Wise choice on the paint sheen... most dull, flat finishes do NOT hold up to the sun and elements (they always look dirty). A subtle semi-gloss applied well can be of great benefit.


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A stock military paint job (I'm talking active duty cargo aircraft) which is flat tone, looks good for about three years. After that, the paint really starts to chalk and fade. At the five year point (typical time when they get a re-paint) they are really looking bad...mis-matched touch-ups, faded areas on top, deep staining, etc. Of course we are talking hard use.
A semi-gloss will go a long way to prolonging the life of the paint job...

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 9:10 pm 
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Well, It should be known that updates from me are coming fewer and fewer than from when I first started this thread. However, that is not because of a lack of work being completed.

Last year was somewhat of a tough year for me. I lost my job in June and struggled to find another as I was tired of job having a "job" and one that was outside of my profession. After finishing all of my pilot training last January, I began flying skydivers in the Summer as a way to build time and stay current. However, I was still too low timed to get any type of flying job that paid. Eventually, I was helped by a friend at the drop zone who put me to work helping him on roofing jobs. Because of all of this, I was not able to spend nearly the amount of time at the museum I had hoped to.

Eventually though, my luck changed in December and I accepted my first professional piloting job as an Aerial Survey Pilot. However, this job required me to move across the state to Philadelphia. So now, my time at the museum will be even more limited, to just the times I can get home on vacation. It has been a great start with the new job and I am already approaching the 5 month mark...

Since my last post Back in December not a lot of work has happened as we had to keep the plane outside over winter to work on our C-123. We then had our annual pig roast and then the first week of May, we had an event and hosted the CAF's Redtail Squadron at the museum. As soon as that was over, the plane was brought back into the hangar and work resumed.

A decent amount of work has happened though since my last update. I will however start off by posting a few pics from March as she sat outside.
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I personally can not wait to retake these shots from the same angle and see the nose art on the plane once again!
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On the historical front, we have on order with the people at the USAF the history of all of our USAF aircraft. We are hoping that within the documents they have on the C-47, will be a photo with a shot of the nose art as we are still looking for that side view.

Work on the controls continued over the winter. The Ailerons and the completed elevator kicked off the painting process for the plane. Here is a shot of them in the first coat of Olive Drab, however it was lightly sanded in preparation for the next coat.
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Here are the controls as of this weekend. Both Ailerons are finished and have been wrapped up awaiting installation. The completed right elevator just needs one more coat of grey and then it will join the two ailerons in waiting to be re-installed. The paint looks really good. The Semi-Gloss finish is perfect, not too shiny but just shiny enough that it will look really sharp once finished.

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just to give an appreciation on how long these controls are, our T-34 wings in the background
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It is really hard to show the color of the olive drab as it changes a lot in different lighting. However, it very closely resemble's Kermit Week's C-47 if you look at pictures of it. Very green in direct sunlight, but in non-direct or overcast very dark. Same with the Grey...
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Volunteers are continuing to work inside the cabin to clean it and remove the adhesive left behind from when it was converted into a VC-47. Its a slow process, but they are making ground. We still have not found anything that will easily take it off, but I still would like to try either Steam blasting or soda blasting on it.
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FINALLY WE HAVE A DOME!

We could not find a complete unit and people who did have them were unwilling to help us. We had bought a dome back in the fall, however, it was not what I was expecting and I knew it was not right coming out of the box. However, the dome itself is the correct dome, it was just the mounting system was wrong. We were able to find a part supplier who had at least one NOS dome mount in stock and we were able to get it. Once we removed the metal ring off of the dome we previously bought, it fits perfectly into the new mount. Right now we are just waiting on the gasket that goes in between the mount and the dome to seal it and then we will begin drilling off the plate from the top of the fuselage and build up the dome assembly and then install it! This was one of the last hurdles we had that was going to keep us from painting the plane. Now, once the plane itself is finished being prepped, painting on the plane will begin.
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We should be painting the plane sometime this summer. It is getting really close and the tail will be the first part that is done. Hopefully, it will be completed prior to August 15th, as that is our Aviation Appreciation Day. It does not look like we will be flying anytime before the fall however.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 4:02 am 
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Good to hear you found a job you like, and thank you very much for keeping us updated even though you live further away now!

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 7:11 am 
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Agreed. Glad things are working for you on the job front.
Thanks for taking the time to keep WIX updated.
As far as when it is going to be ready.
It's ready when it's ready :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 11:33 am 
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Congrats on the job and thanks for this thread. It's threads like this and the others on WIX that make everything worthwhile and allows those of us who do not have access to these aircraft to have a much greater insight into there restoration and care. So again, thank you!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:02 pm 
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So for time for another update...

***Photobucket is "down for Maintenance", so I will post the few photos tomorrow***

The BIG NEWS concerning the Luck of the Irish is that our Maintenance Program has been informally accepted by the FAA. Two weeks ago we were supposed to have it signed off as well as we were to receive the first ever Airworthiness Certificate for the plane. The plane flew from 1944-2012 continuously (except for just a few months in the desert) and has always been a "Public Use" aircraft through the military and state of Florida. However, the FAA had to reschedule the meeting, which was supposed to be today, however it was again rescheduled for this coming Monday.

However, we will only be getting the Maintenance manual signed off as it is a requirement for the AC issuance that the plane has had all AD's complied with, but we don't as we are waiting until we are close to flying to perform the 6 year Prop AD that checks for corrosion.

As I posted in my last update, the Primary Flight Controls have been painted, though they still have to have the Forest Green accent trailing edges painted; though we will do that once they are back on the plane.

The rudder is almost done with its recovering process. I am not really sure what is holding it up other than the fact that the person who has been working on it has had health issues and has not been around much. As soon as it is done, it will be painted. We still have one Elevator that still has yet to start the process.

The plane itself will be painted in sections, starting with the tail and working forward on the fuselage then the wings. The first section itself will the empennage forward to the lap joint of the mid/rear fuselage (so about 3-4ft in front of the horizontal). The tail is currently being prepped for paint now by scrubbing it with micron pads and paint thinner.

We also have sourced parts to put together a brand new Astrodome. We are just waiting on the seal and then we will be drilling off the current patch and installing our new dome.

I am looking into having the interior professionally cleaned. The two leading processes I am looking at is with a steam pressure washer or with a soda blaster. When the plane was converted from a C-47 to VC-47, they used a very heavy glue to hold the insulation in place and that glue has been very hard to remove. Trying to do it by hand requires a lot of work and time to do so. I would really like to have the inside cleaned so it can be painted around the same time as the outside.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:09 pm 
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Tyler, outstanding restoration. Did this C-47 bear any nose art while in service?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:15 pm 
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Thanks L-4 and you also reminded me I needed to upload the photos...

To answer your question yes, It had nose art on BOTH sides of the nose. The problem is that I only have one photo from an almost head on view... I am praying that the USAF records might have a full side photo of it, but I am still waiting to get the records. When I requested them in April, they were still processing Nov/Dec requests...

Here is the photo I do have. This came out of the 435th Troop Carrier Group's "year book".
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Here is a basic idea of what I think it looks like. However, some people say they see the outline of Ireland, which I can't see that at all...
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Here are the update shots...


Outter flap being painted
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Trim Tabs being painted
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Main flap being prepped for paint
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Outter flap being prepped
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Our Astrodome (just sitting together)
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Final prep of the tail for paint.
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How she more or less looks now sitting in the Hangar
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Plus we were donated this 1950's era Clark Tug. Everything is there except for the entire electrical system, so it will take a little bit of work before its running and ready again. Though it will be a blessing once it is as our current tug seems to be on its last leg.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:45 pm 
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Quite a lot has happened since my last update on the C-47. I am once again reporting remotely, so some things may be a little outdated as these photos span from today back to mid/late August.

** Side note, we have installed new White florescent lights in the entire hangar and my iphone has been a little screwy lately with colors, so the OD appears a lot darker now and the primer looks tan in some photos.**

Just two random photos to start...

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The Rudder was finally finished up in its recovering process and has since been painted. The trim tabs have been installed and it more or less is ready to be hung.
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The tail cone was removed from the plane and has at least been primed if not top coated.
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The plate that was installed where the astrodome would have been located has been removed from the plane and the dome/plane was being prepped for installation.
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AND THE BIG NEWS!!!!!!!
WE HAVE FINALLY BEGUN PAINTING THE PLANE ITSELF!!!

Again, we are painting the plane in sections, starting with the tail and working forward. Yesterday, we began by priming the vertical stabilizer. Today, we were able to shoot the top coat of Olive Drab. Its taken a lot of work to get to this point, but we are finally making progress.
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In this photo, you can see the difference between the prepped aluminum and the non-prepped metal. To prep it, the plane was dry sanded with Mirlon Total pads and then wiped down with Paint thinner. After that, the "acid wash" was applied.
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I also have received the extended aircraft history from Maxwell AFB's historical department. I will post its post-war history next.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:25 pm 
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History UPDATE

So I finally got the history report from Maxwell AFB...

Since the detailed WWII history is posted at the beginning, I will just post the post WWII History.

Jul 1945 Returned to US (via Hunter AAF GA, Greenville AAF SC, Love Field TX), to San Bernardino Air Materiel Center CA (storage)
Feb 1947 To 1102nd AAF Base Unit (Air Transport Command), Mitchel AF NY and Military Air Transport Service, Dublin AP Ireland
Jun 1948 To 43rd Headquarters Base Squadron (US Air Forces Europe), Erding AB Germany
Oct 1948 To 1134th Special Air Missions Squadron (AF HQ Command), Dublin AP
Dec 1949 To 1130th Special Air Missions Group (AFHQC), Dublin AP
Feb 1950 To 1130th Special Air Missions Group (AFHQC), Belgrade AP Yugoslavia (deployments to Erding AB and Geneva AP Switzerland, to VC-47D)
Sep 1959 To 7350th Support Squadron (USAFE), Templehof AB Germany
Oct 1959 To 1127th Field Activities Group (USAFE), Belgrade AP (deployments to Athenai AP Greece)
Sep 1965 To US Embassy Air Attaché Office (USAFE), Belgrade AP
Aug 1968 To 7310th Air Base Group (USAFE), Rhein Main AB Germany
Sep 1968 To 1001st Composite Wing (AFHQC), Andrews AFB MD
Jul 1969 To 1st Composite Wing (AFHQC), Andrews AFB
Apr 1972 Dropped from inventory by transfer to US Army

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:33 pm 
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I finally have someone providing consistent updated pictures to me, so it should be a little easier for me to keep this updated. Though, within a month or two, work is going to slow down as the C-123 comes in for its annual...

But painting has continued since last week's update. They have primed and shot the olive drab over all the stabilizers and as of today have primed the rear fuselage in its entirety. The tail cone has also been finished with olive drab at least (not sure from the pics if the grey has been sprayed or not).

Horizontals Primed
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Tail Cone OD
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Fuselage being prepped
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Fuselage Primed
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:10 pm 
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Looking great, guys!

Any luck finding another wartime photo of the nose?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:31 am 
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TheBigBadGman wrote:
Looking great, guys!

Any luck finding another wartime photo of the nose?

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Nothing yet unfortunately

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:08 am 
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Only the right rear fuselage has been completed. I previously thought both side had been.

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