Ok I have to ask who saw Red Tails

PbyCat-Guy · **Posted:** Wed May 23, 2012 11:02 pm

I didn't like how the movie portrayed the bomber crews as frightful and incapable aviators while it portrayed the german fighter pilots as incompetents. I'm not going to be buying this one, much less get it through Red Box to watch. I was disappointed with the movie.

Mudge · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 10:48 am

After all the "hoo-ha" about how bad "Red Tails" was we figured we needed to see it. I rented it yesterday. When it was over, we looked at each other and said, almost in unison, "Tuskeegee Airmen" was better. The lead in stated "Based on the novel by..." what that really means is,
some of the stuff depicted in the movie, actually happened. From what I could glean from the movie, the only "actual" stuff was that there was a 332nd, they did fly P-51s, were based at Ramitelli, and they were Negroes. Other than that......

Mudge the critic

Steve Nelson · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 12:39 pm

It's strange, I watched the 1990 "Memphis Belle" last week, and it wasn't quite as awful as I remembered. Of course I hadn't seen it in 15 years or so, and "Pearl Harbor" and "Red Tails" have come out since then, lowering the realism bar considerably.

I wish we could get a WWII aviation film of the same caliber as "Saving Private Ryan" or "Band of Brothers." I wouldn't even mind if they used a lot of CGI. When it's done well, I don't have a problem with it. Unfortunately the CGI in "Red Tails" was just distractingly obvious and cartoony.

SN

Stephan Wilkinson · **Joined:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:23 am **Posts:** 700

Off topic, but nevermind...anybody seen "The Red Baron"? I think it was made in 2009, and it has high production values, some fair acting, though inevitably a lot of CGI. Lots of real aircraft in taxiing, takeoff and landing scenes, though. (And yes, I did notice the VHF antennas and nav lights...) I came across it by accident and streamed it from Netflix for free the other day. It is VERY loosely based on the story of von Richthofen but is not meant to be a biopic. I enjoyed it, but as a writer, I don't require filmmakers to be literalists.

p51 · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 6:17 pm

Mudge wrote:

-we looked at each other and said, almost in unison, "Tuskeegee Airmen" was better.

Yeah, I said it right after I walked out of the theater from seeing Red Tails, that if they could have swapped scripts between the two movies, you'd have had an amazing Tuskeegee movie, and an unwatchable one.
That said, there was an awful lot of clunkiness to the earlier movies, script as well, just not nearly as much.

Wildchild · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 8:20 pm

Honestly the most recent, realistic airplane movie has been Flyboys

Baldeagle · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 10:35 pm

That's right!

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mustang10 · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 11:02 pm

Wildchild wrote:

Honestly the most recent, realistic airplane movie has been Flyboys

And I haven't seen it yet...darn. Is it worth watching?

Wildchild · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2012 11:21 pm

mustang10 wrote:

Wildchild wrote:

Honestly the most recent, realistic airplane movie has been Flyboys

And I haven't seen it yet...darn. Is it worth watching?

Look for yourself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpIXMVSnsOY - trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IksK9GFe ... re=related - part 1. But i recomend you get the movie so you can watch it normally in H.D.

As to Red Tails... I have more fun flying IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 every Friday than i did watching this movie... Even my game has more realism! :hide:

Dave Homewood · **Posted:** Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:47 pm

I have just had the opportunity to see this film. It was pretty much as I expected, after reading so many comments here and elsewhere. It's not very good, is it.

I do have some questions though. At the Ramatili air base, and also the Luftwaffe air base they attack, why are all the aircraft and buildings butted right up against the runway? And why are dozens of aircraft lined up wingtip to wingtip at both bases. Surely this was not a genuine practice? Even at small temporary airstrips the USAAF must have surely dispersed their aircraft, right? And the living quarters would have been away from the runway for safety's sake? It's just that I listened to a lecture given at the National Museum of the USAF via their podcasts all about the real Tuskagee Airmen, and the speaker made some comparisons to the film, and he reckoned that in the film the Ramatili air base depicted looked pretty close to the real thing. Really?? Are there photos available of the real base taken in WWII?

Also I wonder, has Cuba Gooding Junior ever spoken publicly about being in the film? As he was in both films I wonder if he has made any comparisons.

RAMC181 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:31 pm

1945 aerial photo of Ramitteli AAF from a previous thread:
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.o ... w=previous

All the best,
PB

Braveheart51 · **Joined:** Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:22 am **Posts:** 49

lmritger wrote:

Zack saw it... to say that he was less than impressed is being charitable, but I'll let him tell his tale.

As for me, I'm just working on a big ol' "I TOLD YOU SO" sign to post on every forum where I took heat for saying the movie was going to be crap as soon as the first trailers came out. Despite that, I'm still going to go see it this weekend.

Lynn

I agree crap movie and how many real 51's in there,what one?

Dave Homewood · **Posted:** Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:39 pm

Thanks Paul (RAMC181), ok so the place did indeed have revetments and no tents on the runway edges. I did note further down in that thread the line ups of P-51's though, but I guess they may have been about to go aloft, rather than parked up.

TROJANII · **Joined:** Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:18 pm **Posts:** 178

I saw Red tails weekend before last. Disappointed to say the least.

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11330

When does it come out on cable?

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