Collings TP-40N is heading to the UK

Hooligan2 · **Posted:** Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:36 am

OD/NG wrote:

Their CAA requirements in England are much less stringent than FAA requirements here in the States. That does not mean they are less safe, just less regulations and red tape to deal with.

That's the first time I've ever seen the CAA described as less stringent/less regulations/red tape than the FAA - usually people say "look how easy it is to do so and so with an aircraft in America compared to the requirements here in the UK". :lol:

As I think has already been mentioned, it's only in the last decade or so that we British have at last been allowed to buy rides in such aircraft, for which opportunity much thanks.

LysanderUK · **Joined:** Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:01 pm **Posts:** 271

This is a surprising move to me, as has been said it isn't usually the case that the UK is an easier place to sell rides than the US. It will be interesting to see if the UK CAA really does grant permission for the TP40 to carry paying passengers.

OD/NG · **Joined:** Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:36 pm **Posts:** 746

Hooligan2 wrote:

OD/NG wrote:

Their CAA requirements in England are much less stringent than FAA requirements here in the States. That does not mean they are less safe, just less regulations and red tape to deal with.

That's the first time I've ever seen the CAA described as less stringent/less regulations/red tape than the FAA - usually people say "look how easy it is to do so and so with an aircraft in America compared to the requirements here in the UK". :lol:

As I think has already been mentioned, it's only in the last decade or so that we British have at last been allowed to buy rides in such aircraft, for which opportunity much thanks.

Yep, it hasn't always been like that, and previously that was the case. The FAA keeps "moving the goal-posts" for their rules on warbird passenger flights and after the last major rewrite, the rules are more strict than the U.K. ones according to one of my acquaintences who flies a Spitfire over there.

The one exception, however, is flying fast, tactical jets. It is still easier here in the States to do that, especially after the Hunter accident in the U.K. a few years back.

Firebird · **Posted:** Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:32 pm

LysanderUK wrote:

This is a surprising move to me, as has been said it isn't usually the case that the UK is an easier place to sell rides than the US. It will be interesting to see if the UK CAA really does grant permission for the TP40 to carry paying passengers.

I don't see why it shouldn't, I doubt PM would be bringing it over otherwise. However, I would think it would have to be put on the UK register to do so though.

JohnTerrell · **Posted:** Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:23 pm

They don't anticipate selling flights in the P-40 until late 2021, which I assume is due to taking into account the expected amount of time it will take to certify the aircraft in the UK. As Jim pointed out, what Collings is doing with the TP-40N is what had been in the plans, since 2016/17, for Collings' TP-51C (and may still be the case for that one too).

JimH · **Posted:** Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:23 pm

To my knowledge, Collings doesn't lease airplanes with the exception of Tondelayo. I had Tondelayo at Warbird Adventures for a couple years while I was working there, but wasn't leased. The Doolittle Museum at Nut Tree had Tondelayo for a limited amount of time but that didn't last as we took back out on tour. The A-4 does contract training, other than that everything has been kept close. We leased the first Roush Merlin in Betty while our engine(s) were being built. To that end, the Mustang and P-40 did not operate on the exemption letter...same as Stallion. A bear was poked, and we will see where it lands in the woods.

jim

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