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Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:35 pm

bluehawk15 wrote:As I recall, there was one that crashed in the Bull Run watershed in OR.


9-1-44. Bull Run, Oregon. A Bell P-63A (42-69137) crashed 10 miles east of Bull Run, Oregon, killing pilot 2Lt. Ernest N. Dorazio.


See Page 903 Volume III
FATAL ARMY AIR FORCES AVIATION ACCIDENTS IN THE UNITED STATES, 1941-1945.




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Re: there is a complete and almost intact one..

Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:36 pm

jet1 wrote:in the mountains above santa maria calif. on a private ranch....food for thought


I'll bite... more details, please :lol:

nothing to bite on....

Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:44 pm

its there...the santa maria museum of flight at one time wanted to recover it...EPA got in the way....rancher is ok with a recovery if his land isn't ruined in the recovery. I know people who have been there, don't know how forthcoming the museum folks would be in identifying the location but you might try them

Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:53 pm

Interesting. Thanks, Jet.

Re: nothing to bite on....

Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:32 pm

jet1 wrote:its there...the santa maria museum of flight at one time wanted to recover it...EPA got in the way....rancher is ok with a recovery if his land isn't ruined in the recovery. I know people who have been there, don't know how forthcoming the museum folks would be in identifying the location but you might try them

I'd imagine theres a few in that area. That was a P38 base...On Google you can still see at least 3 dozen hardstands scattered about the airport

yep...

Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:22 am

there are some in the drink off shore but those are probably not worth going after. A popular sport there was to go to the gunnery ranges and dig up expended rounds...there are lots of those for sure!

Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:56 pm

The plane we brought back from Bull Run was a P-38, not a P-63, so there might still be one up there somewhere. I recall that there was an article in the CAF Dispatch in the late 70's or early 80's about the Evergreen Squadron of the CAF doing the recovery on the Lightning.
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