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Redtracer · **Posted:** Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:52 pm

I was thinking, drug runner ditched in the glades from the way the photo looks. You can fly an awful long ways in a PV!

Taigh Ramey · **Posted:** Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:14 pm

Too darn much work today all of which was sadly unrelated to Harpoons so I just now found this great thread.

Great stuff Mark. Lots of cool shots I haven't seen before. I need to put in a workmans comp claim for carpel tunnel problems derived from right clicking/saving so much. Thanks for that!

Mother, may I please have another?

Redtracer · **Posted:** Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:42 pm

One thing I have always thought about photos of PV-1 & PV-2s is that it is hard to tell the true scale of how big this plane actually is. In photos I always thought that she looked like a much smaller airplane. Has anyone thought the same thing or is it just me? The first time you see one in person you realize how big the beauty really is.

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7802

Here's two similar shots that show some differences, kinda cool. :wink:

PV-2

PV-1

PV-2 Harpoon

1943 June PV-1 Torpedo Drop

1945 July PV-2 Gun Bore sighting NAS Ault Field

1945 July PV-2 Torpedo Loading NAS Ault Field

USS Copahee CVE-12 Lockheed PV-1 Ventura on the flight deck moored at the Mare Island Naval California 1943

USS Copahee CVE-12

The Inspector · **Posted:** Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:32 am

Redtracer wrote:

Like Gary said about the access to the nose of the Harpoon. Even our D model with all the guns in the nose still retained it. The floorboards on the co-pilot side are split and flip up like saloon doors and you are somehow supposed to squeeze past the rudder peddles and get in there? I suppose it was a lot easier to acces on the earlier Ventura than the Harpoon as all the controls were on the port side. But to leave that feature in the Harpoon always seemed strange to me. I for one would sure hate to have to try it in flight.

Could just be 'one of them things' that the factory didn't have time or tooling to change over from model to model or 'HEY!! we've got 2498 of these already made!'

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7802

USS Lexington CV16 transporting aircraft including PV-2 Harpoons, Navy version B-26's and PBJ Mitchell bombers

PV-2 Harpoon preparing for takeoff

Nice painting of Lockheed PV-1 Venturas from VPB-139 flying out of Attu Aleutian Islands Alaska Territory return to Attu after a night bombing mission to the Japanese Kuriles in March 1944

ALOHADAVE · **Posted:** Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:04 pm

I would love to see a thread about the Lockheed Hudson with photos. They seem hard to find info and pictures.

Wildchild · **Posted:** Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:46 pm

Redtracer wrote:

I was thinking, drug runner ditched in the glades from the way the photo looks. You can fly an awful long ways in a PV!

That would make sense, except the plane is sitting on it's gears.

Ill tell you what, if I ever get a warbird, I'm getting a PV or a Beach 18. And using it to haul my parts and tools around for my racecar

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7802

trojandl wrote:

I would love to see a thread about the Lockheed Hudson with photos. They seem hard to find info and pictures.

Was that a hint? :wink:

Lockheed A-28 Hudson

RNZAF Hudson III ANZ2066 UH-F

Lockheed A-29 B/No 44 "Mabel"S/N 41-23470 in July 1942

Hudsons at dispersal at Debert Nova Scotia

RAAF Lockheed Hudsons

Lockheed A-29 Hudson

Lockheed A-29 Hudson-LO serial number 41-2338341-4123454-23458 in flight near Mount McKinley Alaska February 1942

Target-tug aircraft named "SNAFU" from the 3rd Anti-submarine Squadron (US Air Force photo)

planenutti · **Posted:** Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:30 pm

OK, so where are the Lodestar pictures?

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7802

Hudsons as Glider tows

cockpit of Lockheed Hudsons

Hudson of Middle East Communications flight flying over the Pyramids in the summer of 1942

Lockheed A-29 S/N 41-23403 in flight (US Air Force photo)

Hudson of 48 Sqn on an anti-submarine patrol along the Scottish coastline

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7802

OK since I'm sitting here in my home office watching the football games and checking e-mail ... here's some Lodestars for ya! :wink:

The Lockheed B-37 was intended to be an armed reconnaissance observation derivative of the Lockheed Lodestar

Union Airways of New Zealand

Lockheed Model 18 Lodestar

Lockheed Model 18 Lodestar New Zealand

National Lockheed Lodestar mid 1950's

Lockheed Model 18 Lodestar New Zealand

Lockheed 18-56 Lodestar c/n 2383 ZK-ANB

Lockheed Model 18 Lodestar New Zealand

Pilots and crewmen wearing the distinctive Air Transport Command logo on their jackets walk past a Lockheed Lodestar on the way to their aircraft in 1942

C-60A-5 Lodestar US Army Air Force 316445 Ohio Wright-Patterson Air Force Base National Museum of US Air Force

hercrat · **Posted:** Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:41 pm

Can someone tell me if this is a PV-2?

The Lockheed in the picture (from the Bond movie?) is N33A, a 18-56-23/C-60A, serial 2263 (BuNo.42-55873) originally assigned wartime to the RCAF.
Post war it was civil CF-FQW before sale and eventual conversion to a Howard 250 in 1963. It has passed through many hands. Impounded in Nassau for drug smuggling April 1984 and apparently still there!

Wildchild · **Posted:** Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:45 pm

This one?

or this one?

Taigh Ramey · **Posted:** Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:48 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:

PV-2 Harpoon preparing for takeoff

Sure looks like 4 bladed props on this Harpoon.

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