Whats up next at the Flying Heritage Collection

[The Inspector]

My first response question is always 'were you aware that you were going to live near an active airport?' if your answer is 'yes' then I suggest you go in the bathroom and yell at the fool you see in the mirror, and you can do that as you head out to find that G@$ D213w4 Realtor who suckered you into buying the house. When the airport was built, Mukilteo was a handful of quaint little cottages, now it wants to be Everett's Bellevue. If the state moves the ferry dock elsewhere Mukilteo will dry up and blow away or revert to Smallville. And, up until I retired, I lived less than 5 minutes away from KPAE on three different sides of it for over 17 years, currently I live under the East side pattern for NAS Whidbey, and right now I've got two EA-18's playing overhead so it's obvious airplane noise doesn't bother me at all. Who are you going to sue when an earthquake makes your house slide down the hill into the Sound?
Can't handle the noise? sell and move to Stevens County North of Spokane, the airport isn't going anywhere so live with it or go get boxes from the liquor store because as far as I'm concerned it's self inflicted and in my dictionary SYMPATHY is between S--T and TOUGH.

Let me take your response one item at a time.

First, I've been here half my life, so I too recall Mukilteo as a tiny little burg. I loved it then, still do, in fact. I live here BECAUSE it's an active airport. Note I said "active", not commercial. I would not not have bought here knowing it would be developed commercially. You'd have to be an idiot, or love commercial jets, to do that. And as I mentioned, there is a document called the "Mediated Role Agreement" that stated, in effect, "this airport will not be developed commercially". So I believed in that legal document knowing I would get my normal healthy fix of airplane noise, and not have commercial airliners flying in and out continuously. So, NO, I do not need to yell at myself in the mirror, and no realtor "suckered" anybody. I am not a victim, and I abhore the victim mentality. I actually picked out a location that was off to the side of the airport, not directly off runways 34L-16R. It was a GREAT move, as I'm right under the warbird pattern, so get fantastic views of HFF and FHC warbirds and great general aviation airplanes and helicopters all the time.

RE: moving the ferry dock.

Personally, I have no opinion one way or the other. Mukilteo won't "blow away". It'll simply revert back to its wonderful little town feel without tourists and Whidbey Island blow-throughs. The town is extra cool--in part--because of the ferry. But if "they" (whoever "they" are) want to move the ferry, it's okay with me. I'll still be able to watch the ferries come and go from the beach, if that's what I'm in the mood to go and do.

RE: EA-18's playing overhead...

Very cool Inspector! You are fortunate there, and I'm willing to bet you knew going in that the fighters would be flying right overhead. So, good planning on your part. Being former Navy I too love the sound of freedom, and it's always a joy when the Whidby Island boys come to play at Paine Field. The good news for us is that they then go back to NAS Whidbey. I would not have moved here had Paine Field been a full-bore Navy base, as after four years of constant fighters and attack birds working the pattern over the barracks at NAS Oceana where I was based, it did seem a lot like a commercial field and no matter how much I dig fighter jet noise, to me, it is a poor choice for locating a home.

RE: Who are you going to sue when an earthquake makes your house slide down the hill into the Sound?

Uh, actually, no one because: A) I'm not the sueing type; B) my home is miles from the Sound; and C) I'm not a "victim", so I take full responsibility for where I selected my home. Plus I have earthquake insurance, so I'm covered anyway.

RE: Can't handle the noise? sell and move to Stevens County North of Spokane, the airport isn't going anywhere so live with it or go get boxes from the liquor store because as far as I'm concerned it's self inflicted and in my dictionary SYMPATHY is between S--T and TOUGH.

Whoee...a tad grumpy, aren't we?! Actually, as I mentioned in line one of my first missive, I LOVE airplane noise. That is why I live near Paine Field...because I've noticed that wherever I hear airplane noise, I find--wait for it... --AIRPLANES! YEEEEHAAAAWWWW! I love the damnned things! Even big commercial suckers like they make at the Lazy B! However, I bought into the "best of both worlds" thing. That is, a job working building commercial airplanes, at a field chock full of warbirds and general aviation, right under the general aviation pattern for runway 34L-16R! And I got me a gen-u-eeiiiine legal document called the "Mediated Role Agreement" that says
"this airport will not be developed commercially".

Now, let me repeat that part: I got me a gen-u-eeiiiine legal document called the "Mediated Role Agreement" that says
"this airport will not be developed commercially".

Now what part of that don't you understand? It's a legal beagle type real live honest to goodness bone-eeee-fide gummint document. Now is that some good shix or what?! I got me an airplane job with wonderful moderaltely noisy and not too polluting airplanes flying all over the dang place, in a small town atmosphere with a ferry and a lighthouse, no less! Is that some great planning or what???!!! Yet now some yahoos want to
OPENLY BREAK THE LAW AND END RUN THE AGREEMENTS.

By God son, that's flat-out un-American and me and a whole bunch are girdin' up to enforce the laws as they are written, regardless of what some yahoo developers and their boughten lawyers are trying to do to subvert that. I say, good luck to 'em, bring it on, but don't say we didn't tell ya so.

Seriously Inspector, you and I are often on the same page and I'm wondering what part of Mukilteo sticks in your craw, as it seems pretty clear that to me that, in my shoes, a dude like you wouldn't put up with this kind of crap either.

--Tom

The part of me that's tired of, and fed up with 'Save Our Communities' and all their, and their contemporaries endless churn, A few of your neighbors managed to sucessfully sue Burlington Northern over 'train noise' along the waterfront this after the train has been running on the same roadbed forover 120 years now that's a full set of, as David Hobbs calls them 'appendages.'
For a couple years I lived South of Fairmont Grade School between Airport Way and the Speedway so is that close enough to being under 16L & 16R?.

[JDK]

Take it elsewhere or to PM, chaps. This isn't a NIMBY thread.

[Fight2FlyPhoto]

Take it elsewhere or to PM, chaps. This isn't a NIMBY thread.

Yeah, plus, it's giving Mukilteo waaaaaaaaaay more attention than it ever should have.


Since the Tomahawk has been stuck in Seattle since SeaFair, perhaps that will be a long enough absence to justify a "Tomahawk Debut Day" next season. Lol. Sure hope it gets everything worked out. (If it hasn't already).

[bdk]

Just when the debate was getting interesting too!

[RobC]

After your visit to FHC, I highly recommend the MukHut in Mukilteo. A lot more fulfilling than this "debate" has been.

[shoki]

The part of me that's tired of, and fed up with 'Save Our Communities' and all their, and their contemporaries endless churn, A few of your neighbors managed to sucessfully sue Burlington Northern over 'train noise' along the waterfront this after the train has been running on the same roadbed forover 120 years now that's a full set of, as David Hobbs calls them 'appendages.'
For a couple years I lived South of Fairmont Grade School between Airport Way and the Speedway so is that close enough to being under 16L & 16R?.[/quote]
Yeah and the same people sueing us for the train noises are the first to sue we hit them.

[Sasquatch]

The part of me that's tired of, and fed up with 'Save Our Communities' and all their, and their contemporaries endless churn, A few of your neighbors managed to sucessfully sue Burlington Northern over 'train noise' along the waterfront this after the train has been running on the same roadbed forover 120 years now that's a full set of, as David Hobbs calls them 'appendages.'


Yeah and the same people sueing us for the train noises are the first to sue we hit them.

Clearly those folks are wieners. And very small ones at that. I love train noise as much as I love airplane noise. People like that are in every town, by every railroad, near every airport and shopping center, etc. I pretty much ignore them.

If you're in Muk, suggest you eat and drink down at Diamond Knot after your FHC and HFF museum visits...lotsa fun there. Just follow the Speedway north (downhill) to the ferry dock; it's on your left, as is the beach park and lighthouse. Sometimes you can run into Steve Hinton and other local pilots in the Speedway Cafe back up towards the airport....great food and a ferry motif atmosphere--highly recommended. That place is across the Mukilteo Speedway from QFC foods, in the same plaza as McDonald's just south of John Session's Historic Flight Foundation. Or go along 5th Avenue north from Mukilteo all the way to Everett, then left on Rucker, go a couple of miles and left again on Hewitt down to the waterfront and drink at The Anchor Pub...saltiest place around, lotsa fun, friendly wimmen and good views of the moored aircraft carrier USS Nimitz when she's in port, plus other Navy and commercial ships. I think you'll see why we like the area and don't want to see it sleazed up. I've had my say asking Inspector to get off Muk's back. As mentioned, we're just trying to abide by lawful agreements; that's all; no big deal.

Movin' on now and no hard feelings Inspector. Back to your regularly scheduled discussion about what's next for FHC.

--Tom

[alang]

Steve Hinton won't be up here again until after Memorial day, He only comes up to test fly FHC's new aircraft or the FW-190. He is FHC's official test pilot.