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Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:19 pm
DaveM2 wrote:airnutz wrote:Steve Nelson wrote:......about the only thing left at this point would be the fuselage frame and engines.
Not splitting hairs here, but I thought the 323 also had a full-span steel tube truss spar as well.
There is a complete spar at one of the German museums, I think that is the only substantial surviving piece of a 323 above water.
Be interesting to know what cargo, if any, this one was carrying.
It is at the Luftwaffenmuseum Gatow, Berlin-Gatow (it´s the former British (RAF) airfield). Have been there last year, many planes, but somehow I missed the Me 323 spar (might have been in one of the hangars not open for public at that time).
If anyone is interested in my pics:
http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk20 ... lin-Gatow/official site of the former Luftwaffenmuseum, now MHM:
http://mhm-gatow.de/en/Michael
Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:04 pm
Hey Michael, any word on the FW190D9 project at Gatow? havn't had an update on it years
Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:08 pm
DaveM2 wrote:airnutz wrote:Steve Nelson wrote:......about the only thing left at this point would be the fuselage frame and engines.
Not splitting hairs here, but I thought the 323 also had a full-span steel tube truss spar as well.
There is a complete spar at one of the German museums, I think that is the only substantial surviving piece of a 323 above water.
Be interesting to know what cargo, if any, this one was carrying.
I had forgotten about that one Dave, but I recall over the years seeing a photo of one of the Me323 spars at a captured German airstrip somewhere around the Mediterranean or N. Africa.
If folks go to
http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com to the "German aircraft section" and scroll down to the bottom to "Relics" , then Messerschmitt, there is a photo of the beast. Quite impressive.
Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:16 pm
Warbird Kid wrote:Would it be feasible to recover whatever is left from this wreck, and combine it with that complete spar (and a whole lot of engineering and new parts) to create one complete ME-323?
Anything is possible with a mega bank account and a certain amount of mass hysteria. I hear a guy is planning on building a replica of the Titanic in the future....he might be your man!
Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:21 pm
JägerMarty wrote:Hey Michael, any word on the FW190D9 project at Gatow? havn't had an update on it years

When I visited there, I asked about it. I was told it were at the backburner, as there were other, more pressing projects at the moment. I had the impression, it was (and still is) a) lack of trained people, and b) lack of money, but that is my subjective view. Interestingly I just had a look for any updates on the net, but the best I could find was this: (I have no idea how far they might be at the moment, sorry!)
http://daedalus-berlin.de/index.php?opt ... 2&Itemid=2Michael
Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:08 pm
That tubular truss spar is impressive.
Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:59 pm
That's a friggen Huge... It looks like a bridge!
Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:32 pm
It really is amazing what Germany constructed during WW2.
Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:52 am
There is an original main spar for an Me.323 at the Luftwaffe Museum in Gatow. It entends essentially wingtip to wingtin (see Preserved Axis Aircraft, in the relic section). So, a more or less complete fuselage frame could possibly be used to produce a complete restoration, though probably more of reproduction using original parts.
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