Warbird Information Exchange

flying dehydrated can seriously decrease g tolerance. Not a good idea for a combat pilot. It would not as big an issue in a chopper, but still would decrease combat effectiveness.

I'd think a depends type thing would work best.

A catheter with a bag would possibly be bad if g forces sent urine from the dirty bag into the sterile urinary bladder. That would lead to bladder/kidney infections

I have filled enough bottles on cross-country flights. How come the worst turbulence is encountered when doing the deed?

I had to laugh when I saw the catheter and urology supply ad in the upper left corner. Did the bots catch the subject matter and place the related ad?

Les

The Military did isssue piddle-packs, early ones had the dehydrated sponge in it to collect the urine, then they came with a dry chemical instead of the sponge. There was talk of developing a female piddle pack, but I left the fighter world before I saw anything, so I don't know if they did or not.

According to an AETC power point slide females options were as follows:

• Options
• 1 – Dehydrate (not recommended)
• 2 - Wear diapers
• 3 – Use same piddle pack that the males use
• 4 – Travel John
• 5 - Lady J / Freshette
• 6 – Vacuum assisted relief system (VARS)

Then there was talk of the Advanced Mission Extender Device (AMXD) system coming out, again don't know if it did or not. This one could be used by both males and females.

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Mike in Florida
TSgt USAF Retired
Jan 86 - Sept 08
Aircrew Life Support
"Your Life Is Our Business"
(122X0, 1T1X1, 1P0X1)
NRA Life Member

We have "piddle packs" in a couple airplanes we use for long-range trips, and in the "kit" is an adapter to fit for a woman. You hook up the adapter and pee into the bag, and a chemical in there turns it into a no-spill gel that is easily disposed of on the ground, no mess, no fuss. It works well for that kind of thing, but how someone in a flight suit strapped into a small seat would accomplish it, well, I don't see how.

That was the concept behind the Advanced Mission Extender Device (AMXD) system, being able to relieve yourself without safing the seat, un-strapping from it, and loosening the harness etc.

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Mike in Florida
TSgt USAF Retired
Jan 86 - Sept 08
Aircrew Life Support
"Your Life Is Our Business"
(122X0, 1T1X1, 1P0X1)
NRA Life Member

funny that a piss pack has to have an official military abbreviation!! who are the dingle berries in the naming dept?? i'm sure they are proud....... hand out the medals & strike up the band!!

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!