Warbird Information Exchange

Having conversations in open cockpit airplanes....with no intercom.

Steve G

Jack Cook said "Midway"

I nearly got thrown out of the theater for yelling "No Way" when the Panther appeared.

Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull:

When did Pan Am start operating AN-2s? Especially during the begnining of the Cold War?! And when Indy and the gang are flying on the Russian Transport it looks just a little too fake for my taste. Was that CGI plane even based off a real aircraft?

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Chicks Dig Warbirds.......right?

At least they were real aircraft and not CGI.
The P-47's were great and in color!
Jerry

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Amazing Stories, "The Mission".
Though the film had great tension and music, and I can live with the silly candycane and big donuts cartoon landing gear, the thing that struck me the most was the extra wide B-17 interior. It was like a bowling alley and he pilot could see from one end to the other. Also, the small swastika on the engine case of the German fighter embedded in the B-17. A little heavy handed image there.
Jerry

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Oh come on it still looked cool Actually, the funniest part was that when you were close up you could see where they added weathering to the paint job and where they have areas that are supposed to be chipped paint they have "rust" much like you would see on a ship. Apparently they think that aircraft are skinned with steel as opposed to fabric, alluminium or other lighter aloys.

There are waaaay too many to really point out.

They range from the subtle, such as the waist gunners in Memphis Belle not wearing goggles at altitude (how can you see Messerschmidts to shoot at when your eyeballs are frozen in their sockets?) to the frikking obvious such as the members of Black Sheep Squadron landing on an angled-deck supercarrier with F-4s spotted IN THE LANDING AREA.

I like to think more about the little subtleties that movie makers get RIGHT, showing good attention to detail. For instance, the D-Day C-47s in Band of Brothers had invasion stripes that looked like they were painted on with brooms ... just like the actual invasion stripes were.

Or the scene in The Final Countdown where Senator Chapman and his friend on the yacht bicker over whether the Tomcats were wearing US markings (most of the scene got cut for the movie, but in the book they have an argument over the bars and missing meatballs in the F-14s' national insignia).

The newer version of Flight of the Phoenix, when during the flight into the sand storm, they have a clip from a camera that supposedly shows inside the engine cowling showing open exposed rocker arms getting dusted, funny stuff, haven't studied it to figure out what kinda engine they used for that one.

I was always impressed with the range of the B-17s in that Black Sheep episode...flew all the way to Europe for their bombing runs!

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Like someone (Garth) typed in his reply - way too many. I try to remember the good movies/shows but here's some:

Fighter Squadron - beautiful filming but when they get those close ups of the birds on the ground or taking off/landing loud hero style music cuts in. I wish they turned down the music. I'd rather have heard the motors.

Catch 22 - great display of B-25s painted in a realistic flat military finish and good filming. Too bad the story line didn't match the subject in a realistic way. Comedy & anti-war. A good story could have been made.

Black sheep Squadron TV show - corny but the dedicated flying spirit is shown.

Airwolf - forget it. When the helo kicked in his warp speed the filming sped up. The military only wishes a helo could go that fast. The only good part was his crew member in the back - Ernest Bourgnine.

Memphis Belle movie (1990) - too many in-flight emergencies on one mission.

Air America - a excellent story of a fascinating subject told wrong again.

Apocalypse Now - the whole movie was garbage except it had the BEST U.S. Army helicopter action scene depicting Vietnam. A short scene of UH-1s and OH-6s. I wish a complete movie be made on that subject. Those Army guys deserve it.

No Time For Sergeants - when Andy Griffith (Will Stockdale) moves forward up into the cockpit and catches the flight crew sleeping. I never entered the cockpit of a military aircraft and found the pilots sleeping but this one is hilarious. Had to throw this one in. Any ex-military can relate to this movie.

The High And The Mighty - John Wayne (pilot) punches out his co-pilot. Good crew resource management.

Bat 21 - while loosely trying to tell a true story of the rescue attempt, the shoot down of the USAF HH-53C was totally incorrect. The movie depicted the aircraft landing and the aircrew shot while on the ground. The Jolly Green was shot down by large AAA with no survivors. The movie makers even used a Navy H-3 when H-53s were available. The HH-53 aircrew deserved better but oh well.

Wish we were posting about the good movies. I think there are more of them.

Larry

In The Blue Max, the uniforms worn by most if not all the German pilots? Anyone else catch why there is a problem, not a minor matter but rather a major one?

Randy

Catch Me if You Can

Leonardo looks out the airplane window and says-

"Carl, look. That's LaGuardia right there. Runway 44"

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A side note here about the music... it's the same Max Stiener score that first appeared in 1941's "Dive Bomber" and then again a few years later in "Destination Tokyo". I guess Warner Brothers were saving money by using the same score in several films before, during and after the war!
I wonder if Max got paid three times!
Jerry

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How about "Forever Young" with Mel Gibson made in 1992. The crash scene of a B-25 at the beginning of the movie where Mel belly lands the Mitchell and bounces 10 feet into the air after hitting the airstrip. After coming to a stop the propellers blades are wrapped completely back around the engine cowlings. Also, as previously mentioned in an earlier post, talking in the cockpit without an intercom (Mitchell's make one hell of a racket) Lastly, when the kid lands the B-25 and comes to a complete stop within 500 feet after the gear first makes contact. Where's all the technical advisors for these movies? Are there even any?

There's a "4" at LGA. Maybe there was a typo in the script and noone caught it.

How about the 1990's James Bond flick where his C-130 is going down and he and his babe extract LAPES-style and drive off in a jeep? Sweet!

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