MX304 wrote:
Airlift48 wrote:
What happens to the lifting properties of helium when you pressurize it? Does it decrease with more pressure?
Helium is still lighter than air no matter how compressed it is. If you could make a cylinder that would hold 2000psi and be light enough, it would float.
No you couldn't! That is so wrong!
In answer to Airlift48's question, that is correct. As it is compressed, its lifting capability is decreased. It is so basic; as it is compressed, it becomes more dense. Static (lighter than air) lift is a matter of relative densities and displacement, not absolute weights - the same way that a 95,000 ton aircraft carrier is able to float in water. The 95,000 tons of steel aircraft carrier takes up more space than the equivalent 95,000 tons of water it is displacing, therefore it is less dense and consequently it floats on the water.
A cubic foot of uncompressed helium is lighter than a cubic foot of regular air, but a cubic foot of compressed helium in a pressurized vessel like an aluminum tank is NOT lighter than the same volume of air. You have to expand or decompress the helium for it to "float" a payload and the differential must be great enough to account for the weight of that payload, too.
Helium has a density (@ 0 degrees C, 101.325 kPa) of 0.1786 grams/liter. Nitrogen, which everyone knows makes up approximately 78% of the Earth's atmosphere, has a density (under the same temperature and pressure conditions) of 1.251 grams/liter. That means that Nitrogen is about 7 times heavier than Helium.
If you compress helium to 2000 psi (roughly 133 times atmospheric pressure), you're putting 133 x 0.1786 grams into each liter of volume = 23.81 grams per liter - which is way more than the same volume of uncompressed dry air (78% Nitrogen and 21% Oxygen, which is about 1.2759 grams per liter).
The result is that even without the pressure cylinder, the "compressed" helium would no longer "float" because it is 18.66 times heavier than the same volume of air.