New Confederate Air Force..anybody heard of this?

[Lynn Allen]

I wonder if Ober is back from Atlanta yet.....

Lynn

[Dan K]

Wonder who it is?

[Django]

I don't see this going anywhere other than more legal drama for the CAF.

What does $25 get you? Doesn't look like much of anything to me.

[LadyO2Pilot]

Interestingly, the scan of the application at the "Join" link looks suspiciously like local unit apps that were used in the past. Caveat - I used to belong to several "local" units and I have CRS so not sure which one's application I'm remembering. But I do know I never belonged to a unit in Georgia.

Interesting find, Brad !! Can't wait for the mystery to be solved.

[K5DH]

as P.T. Barnum always said..,

"Enjoy every sandwich"

P.T. Barnum said that?

Dean the skeptical

[Brad]

Interesting find, Brad !! Can't wait for the mystery to be solved.

I found it in the last issue of Trade a Plane.

[gale_dono]

It is indefensible in public discourse because to try is to automatically be pro-slavery and racist.

How true Cozmo! The facts behind the course the Confederacy was forced to take is largely ignored by folks
who use their warped version of history to further political agendas. They find "the "boogeyman" where there is none
and miss some important truths of our history. Pity..

Last year in celebration of Jefferson Davis' 200th birthday, PBS aired a documentary five years in the making,
Jefferson Davis: An American President. One of the finest, succinct treatments of that part of our history
and what the USA lost as a whole...repercussions we deal with to this day from our "Big Brothers" in Washington.
This is not a "them dirty Yanks" type of doco, but is well presented and discussed fairly, IMHO. 90 bux is a bit steep
for me...but the DVD is worth every penny if your a history buff..
http://jeffersondavisdocumentary.com

“Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition.”
-Cornerstone Speech
Alexander H. Stephens
March 21, 1861
Savannah, Georgia

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/libr ... ntprint=76

The Vice President of the Confederacy.
Those Who Forget History Are Doomed To Repeat It.

[Obergrafeter]

Hush Lynn now everybody will be looking for the secret bunker with the Nelson gold ( or is that............"save your Confederate money the South will rise again". Pretty neat the way I got that drop box in Atlanta so those guys in the black helicopters will never find the bunker. Got to go now I hear the wosh wosh of em coming this way. Told you you should save your Greys.

[cozmo]

Dang, I saw this coming when airnutz included that link. The origins of the civil war can be argued just like which WWII aircraft was the best. Everybody has differing opinions that are sometimes held tighter than their religious beliefs. A comment from a southern politician can be cherry picked just like a comment from Lincoln himself can be cherry picked:

Lincoln wrote in response to Horace Greeley:

"If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that...I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free."

Most of those arguing that Lincoln wasn't really for freeing the slaves only cite the first part of that. Kind of like picking a sentence from a long speech by a vice president just was. I won't post a link, it wouldn't matter to those with tightly held beliefs, and if somebody really wanted to know, I would prefer for them to do the research so they could find their own sources.

The Union was running towards the Civil War on many tracks. One of those tracks was slavery and it was the easiest for people to understand. It was a rallying cry for some parts of the Union, but your average "Johnnie Reb" could care less one way, or the other. There were plenty of other grudges between neighboring states that accounted for many atrocities between the north and the south.

Slavery was the cause for the Civil War just like the assassination of Franz Ferdinand was the cause of WWI.

[RyanShort1]

Slavery was the cause for the Civil War just like the assassination of Franz Ferdinand was the cause of WWI.

That's a pretty fair assessment from what I've read. Can we drop the whole topic now?

Ryan

[JDK]

Mod post: What Ryan said.

I've no ax(e) to grind on the US Civil war, but I'm well aware that no one's going to change anyone's tightly held beliefs here, but it's very likely to get silly. Polite so far, thanks.

So no more bits of the Civil War, and let's keep to the topic, please.

[astixjr]

Mod post: What Ryan said.

I've no ax(e) to grind on the US Civil war, but I'm well aware that no one's going to change anyone's tightly held beliefs here, but it's very likely to get silly. Polite so far, thanks.

So no more bits of the Civil War, and let's keep to the topic, please.

Deux ex machina?

Thought police?

The voice of Empire has spoken. We have been warned.

Kind of an "Orwellian" moment on WIX don't you think?

[astixjr]

Well if the pilots were wearing KKK hoods when flying I could understand an excuse like that but really as a foreigner I thought the whole 'rebel' attitude of the old CAF was brilliant !

I doesn't matter. Confederate and rebel are words that amount to a clarion call for certain segments of the US population. It is indefensible in public discourse because to try is to automatically be pro-slavery and racist. After a while a person wonders if it is worth it. As the CAF did.

Even though there are people in Missouri who are greatly offended by "Jayhawk" and "Redleg" those are okay.

It isn't right, or wrong, Its just one of those things.

But I really liked those jackets that were an homage to the AVG jacket.

Hmmm.... "Redleg". I'll have to Google that one.

[JDK]

Deux ex machina?

Thought police?

The voice of Empire has spoken. We have been warned.

Kind of an "Orwellian" moment on WIX don't you think?

Orwellian would have been a vanished thread. I'm not the 'voice of empire' thanks, that's just insulting.

I'm not telling you what to think, and I'm not restricting your freedom of speech, just trying to keep the thread open and stop the thing going into a mudfight - again.

This isn't a forum to discuss / refight /politic about the American Civil War. It's about warbirds. Everyone had been most polite so far, which is great, but on past performance it was only a matter of time before the whole thing went sour with namecalling and nasties - nothing to do with warbirds either, and not convincing anyone to change their minds. What good would letting that happen?

If you'd rather try to moderate the political kindergarten that WIX is at times, be my guest - I've really had a bellyful.

As I said at the beginning, I've no axe to grind on the topic. I'm genuinely interested in the subject, and I'd like to learn more - but guess what - not here.

Rant over.

[Ztex]

I agree with JDK This forum is not the place for this debate. The Civil War/War of Northern Aggression blah blah blah...the subject is 148 years old. The CAF debate happened 9 years ago...

Give it up.