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After a hard day of flying, both plane and passengers took a night off in Fredricksburg Hangar Hotel and "Officer's Club"-- highly recommended as a fly-in destination.

Good friends, good flying and good times.
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Hey you said you were flying back to 5C1 about 3 pm? If so, then I think I'm almost positive I saw you pass overhead on the way maybe about 1000-1500 AGL or so. We were in the Waring area eating lunch after our church meeting... I was sure that was a T-28 but couldn't figure out which local one it was.

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RyanShort1 wrote:
Hey you said you were flying back to 5C1 about 3 pm? If so, then I think I'm almost positive I saw you pass overhead on the way maybe about 1000-1500 AGL or so. We were in the Waring area eating lunch after our church meeting... I was sure that was a T-28 but couldn't figure out which local one it was.

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I think there are 3 T-28s in town, two A models. If it was a T-28A it was likely 89H from 5C1. You Cannon guys need to come up to Boerne as I can't get in down there...or I'll meet you at Stinson?


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Hey you said you were flying back to 5C1 about 3 pm? If so, then I think I'm almost positive I saw you pass overhead on the way maybe about 1000-1500 AGL or so. We were in the Waring area eating lunch after our church meeting... I was sure that was a T-28 but couldn't figure out which local one it was.

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I think there are 3 T-28s in town, two A models. If it was a T-28A it was likely 89H from 5C1. You Cannon guys need to come up to Boerne as I can't get in down there...or I'll meet you at Stinson?


I do get up to Boerne sometimes. I work at Stinson... Used to be at hanger 2/3 but am now down at hangar 5...

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Another video of being all elbows and ankles during the standard starting proceedure:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/images/flyin ... estart.MPG

(This is after pre-oiling)
Mixture (on throttle quadrant) idle cut-off
Fuel: on (switch is on the left side panel) You can hear the pump come on.
Starter:rotate, count six blades then ignition to both, then press primer button continuing to hold starter.
When the engine fires, come off the starter and primer button, come across the cockpit and quickly move the mixture into full rich.
Adjust throttle to where runs best between 1200 - 1400 rpm for warm up.
Check gauges for oil pressure, etc.

As a bonus, you get a brief glimpse of the operational original A-model gunsight found right here on WIX.


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I notice that your T-28A doesn't have the rollover protection structure installed between the seats. Is this one of the early A models that came without it or has it been removed? I flew(?) the 28 as a USAF cadet 50+ years ago. Looking back it was probably a nice airplane to fly although I didn't think so at the time! Enjoyed the video. Thanks

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I notice that your T-28A doesn't have the rollover protection structure installed between the seats. Is this one of the early A models that came without it or has it been removed? I flew(?) the 28 as a USAF cadet 50+ years ago. Looking back it was probably a nice airplane to fly although I didn't think so at the time! Enjoyed the video. Thanks

It is my understanding that the rollover structure came on the earlier models with the 'high canopy'. This one is a late model with the late model features such as a 'low canopy' (worth a few knots at cruise) and extended range fuel (177 gallons). Like most remaining A models, the airframe is low time, this one at 2800 hours total, and it shows. Many of the large engine B/C/D planes have well over 10,000 hours and carry the scars of that much military time, including carrier landings. Most of the A models also have much of their old 50s electronics removed, so they are about 400 pounds lighter than original.
I am sure you would not have much problem stepping back into the cockpit, as she is a simple and sweet airplane to fly, even 50 years on!
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Its all in how you hangar them. Underground is best!


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Its all in how you hangar them. Underground is best!

Hey Ryan - next time the ALS comes up to Boerne get Ober to show you the underground hangar. The pool and spa are great. We like to call it "Area 0.51"


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snj5 wrote:
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Its all in how you hangar them. Underground is best!

Hey Ryan - next time the ALS comes up to Boerne get Ober to show you the underground hangar. The pool and spa are great. We like to call it "Area 0.51"


Oh good lawdy, Russ....you owe me a keyboard which I just destroyed spitting the liquid I was imbibing... :lol: :lol: :roll:

But Ryan, do come over and see us sometime...LOL


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Area 0.51 .........true, but the drinks are a full 100%.


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While a bit outside the spirit of the ALS, there are planes at Boerne that with the good folks from Cannon could complete the whole FAC line-up through Korea and Vietnam
ALS (Alamo Liason Squadron):
L-2, L-3, L-4, L-5, L-16 + others (S-1A, etc)
BBB (Boerne Battling Beerdrinkers):
T-6, O-1/L-19, O-2, T-28

That would be an amazing lineup - a fairly complete FAC development 1938 - 1974

In fact, we have armament for most of ours!


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Back when the ALG at Cannon had their L-1 and I had my L-6, we had a complete set of L-Birds including an L-8 that F1G1 Pilot and I had restored for our good friend.


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