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What about the AAF's in Michigan...P-35's, P-26's, AT-9's etc?

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The planes still in Lake Michigan are now totally covered with zebra mussels. How would those be removed if/when more planes are recovered? Pressure washing?

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with obama running the show soon he'll probably deem warbirds as lethal weapons and ban them along with all of our firearms! :roll: :x

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Nathan wrote:
with obama running the show soon he'll probably deem warbirds as lethal weapons and ban them along with all of our firearms! :roll: :x


Guys, can we not assume the worst? I'm not any happier than others with the way things appear to be going, but lets not make ourselves look worse.
Personally, I'm for at least initial attempts at friendly persuasion. Let's show them that we're NOT what they paint us to be. Make friends with local media, share your views with your neighbors and get them interested. Be good ambassadors for whatever righteous causes we support.
Lets deal with the issues one at a time, as they come up, deal with things in as civilized a manner as possible, and fight to win, and preserve our freedoms!

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Im sorry Ryan. :( I guess I was just venting some. I really can't see why some people wanna rid the world of warbirds. I think there are more important issues in this world then trying to destroy history. Its a darn good hobby! :wink:

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Nathan wrote:
with obama running the show soon he'll probably deem warbirds as lethal weapons and ban them along with all of our firearms! :roll: :x


Yep, he told me it was on the top of his "to do" list. Seeing as everything else is running so smoothly. :roll:

What exactly has George or any other C. in C. done to help the Warbird community out?

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What exactly has George or any other C. in C. done to help the Warbird community out?



Not much I suppose. I was just venting. :wink: Im just so tired of warbirds being thown up against the wall for no really good reason. Other then some people just like to destroy the joy of others. :?

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What exactly has George or any other C. in C. done to help the Warbird community out?



Not much I suppose. I was just venting. :wink: Im just so tired of warbirds being thown up against the wall for no really good reason. Other then some people just like to destroy the joy of others. :?


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there are a number of grumman avengers on the canadian side of lake erie, as of yet, not found.

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maybe we can recover some warbirds out of africa now that we have a shoe-in 8)
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tulsaboy wrote:
I've heard mention of a birdcage corsair, TBD, etc.


Sadly, there are no TBDs awaiting discovery in the fresh waters of the Great Lakes.

I have heard about the "birdcage" Corsair before, though. In fact, several years ago I visited Pensacola and the docent spoke hopefully about adding an F4U-1 to the collection some day.

I'm sure we will be among the first to know if these rumblings become reality.
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RyanShort1 wrote:
According to some sources there may be close to 400 aircraft :shock: in Lake Michigan including at least one "birdcage" Corsair and some other rare types like SNJ-2s, a SB2U and a few straight wing F4Fs that have not been recovered yet.

Ryan


I have heard that in some areas where there was industrial effluent on the bottom it was not uncommon to find say landing gear sticking out of the bottom with everything else corroded into the muck. Still that would probably leave say 200 aircraft to be recovered. WOW

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I'll let u know this spring and post some pictures for the forum(hopefully) if the rumors are true about the bad water and zebra mussles eating the planes..What I don't know is what lakes they are prevalent in and at what depths they prefer to congragate and colonize in? anybody know or have experience with these zebra muscles?
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Recently there was a news story here about the spread of the zebra mussels. They now cover everything on the lake bottom off the Illinois shore in Lake Michigan.

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maybe we can recover some warbirds out of africa now that we have a shoe-in 8)


LMAO :lol:

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