Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:13 pm
Dan Jones wrote:Paul Allen has a Thunderbolt. Maybe he'd like another one... Does Kermit Weeks have a P-47?
Yes, it is in a shipping crate waiting for a turn in the restoration shop.
Tim
Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:00 am
Martin:
Thank you for the data!!!
Guys,
The Colombians are a very sophisticated bunch. The have operated high performance aircraft for decades, and are very much aware of technology and its uses.
Thus, any proposal that benefits their country's museums, in my opinion, would be of interest.
Things on the ground though, are not conductive to any group of people just going around with expensive equipment.... I do not know though, any particulars about the situation there.
Yup, Junkers, and how about the three missing Rawdons? Or the Bellanca Bombers? Or the Seversky aircraft? Reportedly broken up but, who knows if any major parts still survive somewhere?
Saludos,
Tulio
Thank you for the data!!!
Guys,
The Colombians are a very sophisticated bunch. The have operated high performance aircraft for decades, and are very much aware of technology and its uses.
Thus, any proposal that benefits their country's museums, in my opinion, would be of interest.
Things on the ground though, are not conductive to any group of people just going around with expensive equipment.... I do not know though, any particulars about the situation there.
Yup, Junkers, and how about the three missing Rawdons? Or the Bellanca Bombers? Or the Seversky aircraft? Reportedly broken up but, who knows if any major parts still survive somewhere?
Saludos,
Tulio
Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:16 am
Tulio wrote:Things on the ground though, are not conductive to any group of people just going around with expensive equipment....
Interesting choice of words, Tulio...You and N5151ts may be closer to the same page than you think.
That's why I was suggesting some kind of official relationship...we got "regulators 'n bandits" up here too!
...Too often they're interchangeable..
Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:24 pm
I don't question that possibility. What I question is, an imperfect generalization . . .
Saludos,
Tulio
Saludos,
Tulio
Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:55 am
Tulio wrote:I don't question that possibility. What I question is, an imperfect generalization . .
Yesss..I'm sure the Swamp Ghost crew feel the same way. Demoted from Gold Club..to Silver..to Coach..to Dock(et).
Plundering is a relative term...
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Re: Airplane in a Barn Story
Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:27 pm
Dan Jones wrote:
On page 114 below a photo of a postwar Colombian P-47 it says "Colombia disposed of it's Thunderbolts by pushing them into a river."
Who knows anything else?
Dan
Well if they did & that was at Palanquero, in the Magdalena River, then they would have been pushed in down the ramp in the right hand side of the following pic. from this Google Earth page
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1387257
The river flows away from the bridge the pic. was taken on, so they could be out there somewhere !
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Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:22 pm
Yesssssss!!!!
That ramp is mentioned in Hagedorn's book on the P-47 in Latin American Service . . . .
Thanks to the photo above, we can figure that there is a lot of water flowing downstream, and this in turn, means that during the last 50 years, the airplanes must have been dragged some distance downstrea, OR, they are buried under lots of silt.
Side scan sonar would be the way to go at first, right?
Saludos,
Tulio
That ramp is mentioned in Hagedorn's book on the P-47 in Latin American Service . . . .
Thanks to the photo above, we can figure that there is a lot of water flowing downstream, and this in turn, means that during the last 50 years, the airplanes must have been dragged some distance downstrea, OR, they are buried under lots of silt.
Side scan sonar would be the way to go at first, right?
Saludos,
Tulio
p47s
Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:40 pm
magnometer would be the best bet,side scan will only reveal the bottom surface and the planes I'm sure are berried under 15' of river muck..It would take a large diversion of the river after they were located,shore it up with earth or planking and then excavation of the site..Labor is cheap down there but who knows about the assistance from the government.. Also, do we know for sure if they were dumped or maybe this is a big story? Any pictures of the dumping? Proof?...