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It also looks like a aouette11, there is no rotor cowl and the nose wheel sloops rearward unlike a s-51, the cabin area is too rounded and low to be a 51


Don't think so the Alouette II does not have a faired tailboom. I am thinking the previously mentioned Brantly. :?
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Neither the Alouette or Brantly have the tall rotor mast. I'm going with Sikorsky.


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Neither the Alouette or Brantly have the tall rotor mast. I'm going with Sikorsky.

What is a "tail rotor mast"?
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It also looks like a aouette11, there is no rotor cowl and the nose wheel sloops rearward unlike a s-51, the cabin area is too rounded and low to be a 51

Maybe an Alouette III, but the mast looks too tall. Remember, the camera is panning so some
distortion of the background is occurring. Most likely an S-51.

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Robbie Stuart wrote:
dred wrote:
Neither the Alouette or Brantly have the tall rotor mast. I'm going with Sikorsky.

What is a "tail rotor mast"?
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"Tall", not "tail". If you look at the Alouette or Brantly, their rotor hubs sit almost flush with the fuselage. The Sikorsky's is higher up on a faired mast, sort of like a Robinson.

http://www.brantly.com/picts_ground.htm

http://www.extremesportscafe.com/Graphi ... copter.jpg


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dred wrote:
Robbie Stuart wrote:
dred wrote:
Neither the Alouette or Brantly have the tall rotor mast. I'm going with Sikorsky.

What is a "tail rotor mast"?
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"Tall", not "tail". If you look at the Alouette or Brantly, their rotor hubs sit almost flush with the fuselage. The Sikorsky's is higher up on a faired mast, sort of like a Robinson.

http://www.brantly.com/picts_ground.htm

http://www.extremesportscafe.com/Graphi ... copter.jpg


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i ment to type a 3 the brantly doesn,t have a up sweer in the tail boom its a cone all the way back like a icecream cone, theres no cowl around the mast either like a s-51


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Whatever it is, its UGLY! The Alouette 3 does look similar, but the curvature of the top of the nose is a little off for the '3'; also the shape of the side glass is wrong for a '3', and the engine is missing if its a '3'
http://www.alouette3.com/alouette_3_hel ... r_sale.htm


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So it looks to be a Dragonfly...anyone know about this one? Are there any of them still flying? Would be cool to see.

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At first glance it looked like a Brantley 305 to me. When I was a teenager, dad worked with another guy to rebuild one that was dunked in the Mighty Miss off St. Louis MO. They repaired it and it somehow ended up in Hawaii in the tour business and got dunked in the Pacific. Now its really gone. (and the public is safer too)

Looking closer, it is a Sikorsky S-51. In the unlikely event anyone knows where one of those survives at, I'd like to know since I'd really like to add one to the collection. The only ones I know of are in museums and the last one to change hands went to Evergreen and sits in the shadow of the Spruce Goose now.

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airnutz wrote:
helinut wrote:
It also looks like a aouette11, there is no rotor cowl and the nose wheel sloops rearward unlike a s-51, the cabin area is too rounded and low to be a 51

Maybe an Alouette III, but the mast looks too tall. Remember, the camera is panning so some
distortion of the background is occurring. Most likely an S-51.


No, the exposed engine would have been visible had it been an Alouette III. I would bet real money that the helicopter in question is the favoured Dragonfly. :)


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The only ones I know of are in museums and the last one to change hands went to Evergreen and sits in the shadow of the Spruce Goose now.

That's from Jack Lenhardt's collection. I don't know if he loaned his collection or donated it.
I have pictures of it when he first got it back in the early 70s.

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Ztex wrote:
So it looks to be a Dragonfly...anyone know about this one? Are there any of them still flying? Would be cool to see.

Thanks guys!

Z


I don't believe there are any Dragonflies in the air anymore, but a number of them are in museums. I have a picture of my dad in the Navy standing in front of one. I would also agree that the helicopter in question is a Brantley

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At first I thought Sikorsky but the greenhouse nose looks too rounded for an S-51. I think it is more likely an Alouette. Don't have a clue as to what a Brantly looks like.


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