Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:41 am
Isn't that -4 one of the prototypes? I was wondering if it is in original paint , including cockpit? Wouldn't that be a neat time capsule 
Great photos by the way Bill, thanks for sharing.
Great photos by the way Bill, thanks for sharing.
Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:20 am
It is the sole remaining XF4U-4 BuNo. 80759.
I believe there were four XF4U-4's built. This aircraft was restored in the mid to late 1970's, so it is not the original paint on the outside. I can't vouch for the interior though, so it may be original inside. The outer wing panels are fabric. It received some nicks during the 1979 tornado and the canopy could stand replacing.
I've always liked the overall "plain Jane" look. Just worn enough to look like a veteran!
This Corsair had some yellow on it when it was first brought to Connecticut from it's Norfolk storage can. I believe the cowl and vertical fin were yellow, but I can't remember much more without finding my old Instamatic 110 photo album. Somebody out there my have a good photo of her with the yellow paint, either in service or from the 1960's at NEAM.
FYI, there is only about 800 total hours on the airframe. After the initial testing at Vought, she was used for armament testing by the Navy. And for those modelers out there, there is many non-standard items in the cockpit that were used to perform and measure tests, so be careful when using this cockpit to detail a "line" Corsair model!
And as a side note; MOH Marion Carl flew this aircraft it some point in his stateside career. His signature is in the log book!
Blue skies,
Jerry
I believe there were four XF4U-4's built. This aircraft was restored in the mid to late 1970's, so it is not the original paint on the outside. I can't vouch for the interior though, so it may be original inside. The outer wing panels are fabric. It received some nicks during the 1979 tornado and the canopy could stand replacing.
I've always liked the overall "plain Jane" look. Just worn enough to look like a veteran!
This Corsair had some yellow on it when it was first brought to Connecticut from it's Norfolk storage can. I believe the cowl and vertical fin were yellow, but I can't remember much more without finding my old Instamatic 110 photo album. Somebody out there my have a good photo of her with the yellow paint, either in service or from the 1960's at NEAM.
FYI, there is only about 800 total hours on the airframe. After the initial testing at Vought, she was used for armament testing by the Navy. And for those modelers out there, there is many non-standard items in the cockpit that were used to perform and measure tests, so be careful when using this cockpit to detail a "line" Corsair model!
And as a side note; MOH Marion Carl flew this aircraft it some point in his stateside career. His signature is in the log book!
Blue skies,
Jerry
Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:52 pm
I really love that B-25.
Did any fellow wixers build the Dog Daize B-25 model from the late 60's? I think it was 1/24th scale which seemed really large to me as a 10 year old about 1970.
I'd like to get that kit again.
Did any fellow wixers build the Dog Daize B-25 model from the late 60's? I think it was 1/24th scale which seemed really large to me as a 10 year old about 1970.
I'd like to get that kit again.
Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:10 pm
Bill Kistler wrote:
What's this? Weird engines
Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:05 pm
Jerry O'Neill wrote:It is the sole remaining XF4U-4 BuNo. 80759.
I believe there were four XF4U-4's built. This aircraft was restored in the mid to late 1970's, so it is not the original paint on the outside. I can't vouch for the interior though, so it may be original inside. The outer wing panels are fabric. It received some nicks during the 1979 tornado and the canopy could stand replacing.
I've always liked the overall "plain Jane" look. Just worn enough to look like a veteran!
This Corsair had some yellow on it when it was first brought to Connecticut from it's Norfolk storage can. I believe the cowl and vertical fin were yellow, but I can't remember much more without finding my old Instamatic 110 photo album. Somebody out there my have a good photo of her with the yellow paint, either in service or from the 1960's at NEAM.
FYI, there is only about 800 total hours on the airframe. After the initial testing at Vought, she was used for armament testing by the Navy. And for those modelers out there, there is many non-standard items in the cockpit that were used to perform and measure tests, so be careful when using this cockpit to detail a "line" Corsair model!
And as a side note; MOH Marion Carl flew this aircraft it some point in his stateside career. His signature is in the log book!
Blue skies,
Jerry
Jerry,
The last time I was there, that corsair was being restored. I think thats when dad was there for the George project. Now my question is. Did I hear right that "pappy's" signature is in either the wheel well or the wing fold area????
Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:18 pm
Thanks for the info Jerry, I see there is a number or writing on the side of the fuselage is this the TEST #, anybody have a good side view shot or one when the wings were down?
So who owns that lucky logbook? I hope its with the museum?
So who owns that lucky logbook? I hope its with the museum?
Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:09 pm
No apologies needed on that B-29 photo, Bill. A beautiful shot of what lots of hard work can do to old aluminum. That is a great looking Superfortress.
Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:43 pm
Fouga23 wrote:Bill Kistler wrote:
What's this? Weird engines
The K-16B only flew in tethered flight and then only about 16 inches before the project was abandoned. It's been at NEAM ever since.
Jerry
Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:46 pm
steve dickey wrote:Thanks for the info Jerry, I see there is a number or writing on the side of the fuselage is this the TEST #, anybody have a good side view shot or one when the wings were down?
So who owns that lucky logbook? I hope its with the museum?
No number on the fuselage at all, just the BuNo on the tail. The white line is the foot sighting line for blindly finding the recessed side step as you exit the cockpit.
The log book is in the museum's possession.
And as far as Pappy's signature, I worked at NEAM for many years and never heard that one. I do know that while it was under restoration in 1976, Robert Conrad stopped by and sat in the cockpit.
Jerry
Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:51 pm
PinecastleAAF wrote:I really love that B-25.
Did any fellow wixers build the Dog Daize B-25 model from the late 60's? I think it was 1/24th scale which seemed really large to me as a 10 year old about 1970.
I'd like to get that kit again.
Monogram made a 1/48 scale model of "Dog Daize". I still have one un-made kit. The navigator on the original "Dog Daize" lived in Waterbury, CT and about 15 years ago he was given a never received DFC at a ceremony at the Museum.
That B-25 was never civilianized, so all the neat stuff specific to th "H" model was still inside. The micota 75mm shell dump chute with spring loaded doors on the belly is particularly interesting, along with the single pilot seat!
Jerry
Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:59 pm
Fouga23 wrote:
What's this? Weird engines
Pimp my Goose.
Great thread, folks, very interesting.
Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:54 pm
[quote="Jerry O'Neill"][quote="steve dickey"]Thanks for the info Jerry, I see there is a number or writing on the side of the fuselage is this the TEST #, anybody have a good side view shot or one when the wings were down?
So who owns that lucky logbook? I hope its with the museum?[/quote]
No number on the fuselage at all, just the BuNo on the tail. The white line is the foot sighting line for blindly finding the recessed side step as you exit the cockpit.
The log book is in the museum's possession.
And as far as Pappy's signature, I worked at NEAM for many years and never heard that one. I do know that while it was under restoration in 1976, Robert Conrad stopped by and sat in the cockpit.
Jerry[/quote]
Geez Jerry I made a blunder
, I didn't go back and look at the picture till I seen your responce, I was thinking Corsair but its the Hellcat that has numbers on the side of the fuselage, what is it?
Thanks.
So who owns that lucky logbook? I hope its with the museum?[/quote]
No number on the fuselage at all, just the BuNo on the tail. The white line is the foot sighting line for blindly finding the recessed side step as you exit the cockpit.
The log book is in the museum's possession.
And as far as Pappy's signature, I worked at NEAM for many years and never heard that one. I do know that while it was under restoration in 1976, Robert Conrad stopped by and sat in the cockpit.
Jerry[/quote]
Geez Jerry I made a blunder
, I didn't go back and look at the picture till I seen your responce, I was thinking Corsair but its the Hellcat that has numbers on the side of the fuselage, what is it?
Thanks.
Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:41 pm
He played Pappy on TV though, so it's the same, isn't it?Jerry O'Neill wrote:And as far as Pappy's signature, I worked at NEAM for many years and never heard that one. I do know that while it was under restoration in 1976, Robert Conrad stopped by and sat in the cockpit.
Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:49 pm
Did any fellow wixers build the Dog Daize B-25 model from the late 60's? I think it was 1/24th scale which seemed really large to me as a 10 year old about 1970.
I'd like to get that kit again.
Aurora made a "screw-together" B-25 kit in something like 1/32 scale in the late 50s/early 60s..not sure which variant, but it may have been an H. It's long out of production..you might be able to find one on Ebay or from a collector, but you'd pay through the nose for it. I heard that one of those outfits that makes the big-scale pre-painted models was planning to bring out a 1/18 B-25B, but I don't know any specifics.
SN