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Good page resouce, there, Scott, thanks.
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Anyone know 'The Gernsback Continuum'?

Oh yes!
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http://davidszondy.com/future/Flight/futureflight.htm

Good one, thanks. What a winner!

This is the kind of thing I was thinking of:

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http://davidszondy.com/future/Flight/belgeddes.htm

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Looks like a pumped up Mosquito on steroids.

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smiles,

My first impression was that the Chinese Museum with the replica Mosquito had rolled now out a replica B-17 from the same workshop.

It certainly looks like a movie prop from Raiders of the lost ark etc.

thanks for the pic and thread JDK, it was a type I wasnt previously aware of.

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Mr. Fernando Garrido (Ecuador) just uploaded this shot at LAAHS (Photographer unknown).

It shows two B-24s flying over Baltra Island (Galapagos Archipelago) during WW-II.


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James, thank you so much for posting this photo!!! I had only seen it as a blurry image on an old microfilm issue of Time magazine. Here is a link to the article from March 6, 1944:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 46,00.html

Very informative - and amusing how they refer to the B-19 as a "lumbering dullard". Does anyone know what the new engines were that could drag this thing along at 200 mph? By the way, those massive wings were very similar to those of the Boeing B-314 Clippers.

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Remember, the XB-15 was essentially the 314 Clipper with the boat part removed, same wing and early engine combo, and was one whale of an accomplishment in size for the mid 30's when everyone else though two engines was da schizzle-

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Great contributions everyone. Thanks to ArmyJunk's input, I think I've solved the need for that extra strong wing structure, and it's not the number of people you could fit inside that mattered, it's how many you could fit on it - and their legs:

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Well, this is interesting - the gun position in the nose is now at the 6 o'clock position and the tailcode suggests a reconnaissance group rather than the bomb group "BB89" code in other photos I've seen on the NMUSAF site:

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared ... 4S-041.jpg

Note also in the linked photo that the nose gun bubble has been removed, but its position looks like it might still be at 6 o'clock. Here's a closeup of the nose with the gun bubble at 12 o'clock:

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared ... 4S-047.jpg

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That's a wild looking front sight, any idea how it works? Does it swing for leading the target?

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I like the hatch with what looks like a porthole in the engine nacelle. Easy maintnenance?


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I like the hatch with what looks like a porthole in the engine nacelle. Easy maintnenance?


In-flight access to engines was a touted feature.

Boy, that's a long way down should any of those ladies slip!


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B-18 in the background?


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That's a wild looking front sight, any idea how it works? Does it swing for leading the target?

If you are referring to the front sight to the nose machine gun, the British equivalent I am familiar with was designed to provide lead compensation for aiming relative to your aircraft's airflow by use of a wind vane; so when firing to whatever degree to the beam, it would compensate for your speed / airflow to increase accuracy of aim over those two factors. Firing straight ahead, it would have set the front sight to the normal position. Of course it didn't do anything about the relative motion of the other aircraft / object.

As to the nose cupola, it seems to me it might have been designed to rotate around the rim; beyond getting the nose gun out of the way for the bomb-sight's use, I can't see any great advantage - maybe a small increase on traverse in azimuth.

It also seems over-engineered with two large sets of gimball rings blocking the view - maybe that's an absolute with a .50?

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