Red Bull P-38 pictures

Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:47 pm

HO HUM...another P-38.

Mudge the bored :shock:

Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:55 pm

What a beautiful airplane...I love the sleek lines of the pre-war look. As far as I know Red Bull will not go any further in adding their logo to the airplane besides those on the elevator balancers.

Thanks for posting the photos!

Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:59 pm

Hellcat wrote:
Taylor, to answer your question about the USAAC insignia, I've heard that Red Bull doesn't like full military markings. I think they like to distance themselves from appearing "too military". Perhaps it's about not pissing off their anti-war customers. Does anyone know for sure?

Take a look at their website ... that seems not the case.

I did take a look at their website. Why don't you take another look, lol!

Only 2 aircraft of their fleet, have even remotely "military" markings. Those are the Corsair and the T-28. In fact, those are the only 2 aircraft that have United States Military Insignia on them. The vast majority of their aircraft have the corporate logo - the "Flying Bull" on them, even on the 2 quasi-military schemes. Except for those 2 aircraft, all of the rest of the paint schemes have been "civilianized".

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Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:06 pm

Easy, don't get upset, I just made a point, they DO have military markings on their aircraft, maybe not all of them, but some, so what's your point? .... Geez!, I wasn't attacking you .... OK, I took another look ... now what? .... I see military markings ... So to re-state things, the original quote doesn't seem correct, who cares anyway, they can paint all their aircraft pink for all I care .... :roll:

Only 2 aircraft of their fleet, have even remotely "military" markings.

BTW, their Corsair looks to have a Full military paint scheme on it, anyone disagree? ... It flew with the famous red bull squadron in Korea. But for the sake of not arguing with you Warbird1 .... YOU WIN!!!! .... :wink:

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Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:14 pm

Hellcat wrote:Easy, don't get upset, I just made a point, they DO have military markings on their aircraft, maybe not all of them, but some, so what's your point? .... Geez!, I wasn't attacking you .... OK, I took another look ... now what? .... I see military markings ... So to re-state things, the original quote doesn't seem correct, who cares anyway, they can paint all their aircraft pink for all I care ....

I'm not getting upset, I'm simply correcting wrong information, that's all. If you look at their website, only 2 of the 13 aircraft they fly have military markings. I think that supports my statement. Also, keep in mind, that some of the pictures they show there are of their aircraft shortly after they obtained them and before they got "civilianized" with official Red Bull paint schemes. Even those 2 quasi-military schemes on the Corsair and T-28 are not very accurate at all. So, I stand by my original assertion. :wink:

Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:28 pm

I'm not getting upset, I'm simply correcting wrong information, that's all. If you look at their website, only 2 of the 13 aircraft they fly have military markings. I think that supports my statement. Also, keep in mind, that some of the pictures they show there are of their aircraft shortly after they obtained them and before they got "civilianized" with official Red Bull paint schemes. Even those 2 quasi-military schemes on the Corsair and T-28 are not very accurate at all. So, I stand by my original assertion.

First ... what wrong information? ... second ... ah!! What???? ... lololol, like I said, never mind, you win!!! ....

Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:57 pm

bdk wrote:When are they going to finish repainting it in "White Lightnin'" colors?

Give it up. Be glad it was restored to the glorious condition it's in.

Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:53 pm

Hellcat wrote:BTW, their Corsair looks to have a Full military paint scheme on it, anyone disagree? ... It flew with the famous red bull squadron in Korea. But for the sake of not arguing with you Warbird1 .... YOU WIN!!!! ....

Yea, you're right, the Corsair is in full, accurate military paint. Everything from the color, the tail code, the tail code's size and unit insignia are all highly accurate. Yes, the famous red bull squadron in Korea, wow, what a unit! They managed to shoot down a lot of Japanese aircraft there. You know that unit doesn't need any more recognition, after all, everybody knows a lot about the famous red bull squadron in Korea.

I retract my previous statement- that the Corsair is in quasi-military paint scheme.

BTW, there's nothing wrong with debate here. I can keep it civil, unlike a lot of people here (NOT referring to you, Hellcat)

Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:10 pm

There's a very famous line, from a very famous movie ... that move was called "From Dusk Till Dawn" .... starring some of our very best actors of all time, George Clooney, Harvey Keitel and Cheech Marin ... and if memory recalls, I think Cheech Marin was nominated for best supporting actor in this classic. ... Anyway at one point in the movie, Harvey Keitel says to George Clooney .... "Are you that stupid, that you can't even tell when you've won?" ... well the last time I was moved by such beautifully written diolog, was when Bluto spoke those patriotic and emotionally moving words in "Animal House" .... Ahh! ... what was it again? ... something about when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? ... :idea:

well, no matter, You've won, I lost .... I've been spending so much time on this crazy WIX site that every airplane I see these days on the internet seem to have dark sea blue and Navy markings on them .... See, all those years when I was a kid building plastic models, I was told not to sniff that glue too long ..... :wink:

Just funnin, just funnin. .... and remember this .... He who laughs last, didn't get it. ... :lol:

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Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:11 pm

Tim Adams wrote:
bdk wrote:When are they going to finish repainting it in "White Lightnin'" colors?

Give it up. Be glad it was restored to the glorious condition it's in.

You can't honestly think I was serious, can you? :shock:

Hellcat wrote:There's a very famous line, from a very famous movie ... that move was called "From Dusk Till Dawn" .... starring some of our very best actors of all time, George Clooney, Harvey Keitel and Cheech Martin ... and if memory recalls, I think Cheech Martin was nominated for best supporting actor in this classic. ...

Cheech MARIN, cheech MARIN!

Sheesh! :roll:

Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:14 pm

WHAT!!!!? did I spell something wrong? .... :wink:

When are they going to finish repainting it in "White Lightnin'" colors?

I could've eaten Alphabits and crapped out a better post!! .... :lol:

Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:24 pm

Don't get me wrong, It looks great the way it is... I'm just partial to the pre-war meatball insignias...

Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:33 pm

me109me109 wrote:Don't get me wrong, It looks great the way it is... I'm just partial to the pre-war meatball insignias...

I have a feeling that's as good as it's going to get, considering their natural metal B-25 has no insignias either.

Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:01 am

steve dickey wrote:
Yak 11 Fan wrote:They look like GPS antenna to me, I could be wrong though. Very nice restoration.

Yes they are GPS antenna's, thanks everyone for the kind coments

Garmin, the pilots best friend :wink:

antenna's

Lynn

Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:30 am

It's interesting to me that during the entire time this airplane has been undergoing it's restoration, it seems that the overall paint scheme and details within it have been of the utmost interest to most folks. What I find fascinating, however, is the craftsmanship that was involved in getting this beast ready for flying again. Does anyone remember what the Ezell Aviation crew had to start with? It was a clunky ol' P-38 that had caught fire in flight and was put down in a field in Mississippi. And I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I've worked on Lefty's airplanes before, so trust me, even IF this P-38 hadn't been wrecked in a field, there were surely plenty of other maintenance issues that would make one scratch his head in amazement.

So with that being said, take another close look at those pictures. Look at the cowlings and landing gear doors that were made from scratch, by hand, by Nelson and crew. And they're polished! No Bondo there, just incredible workmanship. The hydraulic systems were completely rebuilt and/or replaced. The electrical system was the same. This airplane, whether you like the paint scheme or not, is a phenominal example of a great restoration. I'm confident the folks at Red Bull know the history of this airplane and respect that, but it's their airplane now and I'm equally confident that it'll be around for many more years under their care. I think the last picture posted (with Ashley's back turned to the camera) says it best..."An icon...reborn."

Getting off of soap box now,
Gary