Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:52 am
Wanting to strike a balance between the eminently-doable and the utter-pie-in-the-sky...here are a few:
deHavilland 103 Hornet/Sea Hornet
Armstrong Whitworth Siskin IIIA/IIIDC
Curtiss-Reid Rambler
Vought F5U "Flying Flapjack" (how would it do at Reno??)
Nakajima Ki27 "Nate"
Mitsubishi A5M "Claude"
Lavochkin La5FN/La7
NAA XP-51F/G/J (as a modernized Thunder Mustang-style "lookalike")
The two Japanese types on this list are reputedly two of the sweetest-flying fighters ever built and would be wonderful airshow aerobatic mounts. The Reid Rambler, a Moth-class light biplane, could perhaps be built in some numbers, a la the Waco Classic...
S.
deHavilland 103 Hornet/Sea Hornet
Armstrong Whitworth Siskin IIIA/IIIDC
Curtiss-Reid Rambler
Vought F5U "Flying Flapjack" (how would it do at Reno??)
Nakajima Ki27 "Nate"
Mitsubishi A5M "Claude"
Lavochkin La5FN/La7
NAA XP-51F/G/J (as a modernized Thunder Mustang-style "lookalike")
The two Japanese types on this list are reputedly two of the sweetest-flying fighters ever built and would be wonderful airshow aerobatic mounts. The Reid Rambler, a Moth-class light biplane, could perhaps be built in some numbers, a la the Waco Classic...
S.
Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:20 pm
I think that the more ambitious the replica the less chance it has had of success. The Me 262, regardless of how beautiful it is, will always only have an extremely limited market, by nature of it`s complexity. How many buy Cessna 172, and Cherokees, how many buy Lear 24`s?
The FW 190, same, because as attractive as that is, it will never be a "mass market aircraft" like a P51, or spitfire. As well they are ambitious in every way. ( even the P51 and Spitfire have extremely limited markets due cost and operational concerns)
It terms of Replica`s, I think Bob DeFord has got it just about perfect with his 1-1 Spitfire, allison powered, beautiful job there.
My vote for a realistic replica-reproduction on a limited production basis?
The Ryan STA
That airplane was art deco personified, an absolutely stunning aircraft, relatively easy to build, no complex systems, powerplant is available,
( not the Menasco, but a LOM is a direct replacement, or a Cirrus can be used as well)
It has a military background, with many schemes available, it can also be put on floats, again military use, and most anyone can fly one.
Oh, best of all, it would not be a million dollar plus replica.
I think that the guys doing the P 26 Peashooters, Boeing P12`s, have it right, recreate something that more people can potentially own, and you will sell more of them.
So, if anyone wants to have a go at the STA I have the drawings and a ton of info, and I know of some likely companies which could produce parts in various eastern european countries!
The FW 190, same, because as attractive as that is, it will never be a "mass market aircraft" like a P51, or spitfire. As well they are ambitious in every way. ( even the P51 and Spitfire have extremely limited markets due cost and operational concerns)
It terms of Replica`s, I think Bob DeFord has got it just about perfect with his 1-1 Spitfire, allison powered, beautiful job there.
My vote for a realistic replica-reproduction on a limited production basis?
The Ryan STA
That airplane was art deco personified, an absolutely stunning aircraft, relatively easy to build, no complex systems, powerplant is available,
( not the Menasco, but a LOM is a direct replacement, or a Cirrus can be used as well)
It has a military background, with many schemes available, it can also be put on floats, again military use, and most anyone can fly one.
Oh, best of all, it would not be a million dollar plus replica.
I think that the guys doing the P 26 Peashooters, Boeing P12`s, have it right, recreate something that more people can potentially own, and you will sell more of them.
So, if anyone wants to have a go at the STA I have the drawings and a ton of info, and I know of some likely companies which could produce parts in various eastern european countries!
Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:10 am
Lotus49: Plans for the STA are available already. The last time that I looked, pricing was $800 I think. From what I can remember, the nose bowl, leading edges and the wheel pants were the most complicated parts to fabricate.
Try Ev Cassagneres for plans.
Try Ev Cassagneres for plans.
Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:10 am
Time to write down some of those dreams, I mean fantasies...
Martin Baker MB-5
American Gyro AG-4 Crusader
Alcor C.6.1
Northrop N-102 Fang
Rutan ARES
Rutan Advanced Tactical Transport
Beech XA-38 Grizzly
Republic XR-12 Rainbow
Piper Sky Cycle
Horten 229
Vought XF5U-1 "Flying Flapjack"
Blohm und Voss Bv-141B
and on and on and on.....
Enjoy the Day! Mark
Martin Baker MB-5
American Gyro AG-4 Crusader
Alcor C.6.1
Northrop N-102 Fang
Rutan ARES
Rutan Advanced Tactical Transport
Beech XA-38 Grizzly
Republic XR-12 Rainbow
Piper Sky Cycle
Horten 229
Vought XF5U-1 "Flying Flapjack"
Blohm und Voss Bv-141B
and on and on and on.....
Enjoy the Day! Mark
Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:27 am
CV
correct, Ev`s drawings are excellent, they are essentially production drawings, and he is the renowned expert on type.
RE complicated parts, yes the nose bowl and wheelpants are certainly the complex bits, although readily produced with the talents of the potential companies in Eastern Europe.
they are currently producing all aluminum AC Cobra bodies, among other projects.
The leading edges are a basic flat wrap, similar to a Pitts, Skybolt, etc leading edge, ( many have now switched to preformed plywood leading edges, and the STA wing would benefit from that as well)
One talented fellow has already produced a scratchbuilt STA from Ev`s drawings, Ev flew it and thought it was every bit as good as a real STA.
Regards the replica/reproduction game, I know most guys here are tossing out types that are well beyond anything realistic, no doubt mainly for fun, B36??? and fantasy, basically a what we would like to see exercise.
but there are certainly realistic and attainable replicas which would still make for extremely interesting aircraft when completed, and they would not require the "100Million win" to see it through.
correct, Ev`s drawings are excellent, they are essentially production drawings, and he is the renowned expert on type.
RE complicated parts, yes the nose bowl and wheelpants are certainly the complex bits, although readily produced with the talents of the potential companies in Eastern Europe.
they are currently producing all aluminum AC Cobra bodies, among other projects.
The leading edges are a basic flat wrap, similar to a Pitts, Skybolt, etc leading edge, ( many have now switched to preformed plywood leading edges, and the STA wing would benefit from that as well)
One talented fellow has already produced a scratchbuilt STA from Ev`s drawings, Ev flew it and thought it was every bit as good as a real STA.
Regards the replica/reproduction game, I know most guys here are tossing out types that are well beyond anything realistic, no doubt mainly for fun, B36??? and fantasy, basically a what we would like to see exercise.
but there are certainly realistic and attainable replicas which would still make for extremely interesting aircraft when completed, and they would not require the "100Million win" to see it through.
Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:42 pm
From a daydream far, far away....
TBD Devastator (echo a previous thread)
P-61 (we need more of 'em)
SE5a (" " " " ")
And now for something completely different:
Savoia Marchetti SM.79
But then again, if I had that kind of money, I'd retire early and write about my warbird collection....
TBD Devastator (echo a previous thread)
P-61 (we need more of 'em)
SE5a (" " " " ")
And now for something completely different:
Savoia Marchetti SM.79
But then again, if I had that kind of money, I'd retire early and write about my warbird collection....
Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:54 pm
If you had the money to open up your own aicraft reproduction shop and build anything you wanted...what aircraft would you reproduce to flying condition?
A Waco WHD.....mmmmmm.... About the best of everything.... tolerable fuel consumption, good flyer, good short/soft field, easy storage , easy maintenance, available engines/props, maneuverable 200+VNE, great looker and crowd draw, actually acheivable, insurable, within average pilot skills, and ...yes, it carried two .30 BMGs in the wings and a 3rd for the rear seat, plus bomb racks!
