Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:03 pm
Do you mean YP-43?
Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:32 pm
The RAAF flew P-43's in Australia as photo recce birds for a period early in the war..
In 1942 eight Lancers were delivered to the RAAF to augment the Buffaloes and Lightnings of the Photographic Reconnaissance Unit. Six of the aircraft, A56-1 and 2 (P-43Ds) and A56-3/6 (P-43-A-1s) were received on 31 August 1942, and the remaining two, A56-7 and 8 (P-43Ds) arrived on 10 November 1942. The Lancers operated with PRU until the following year when A56-1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 8 were transferred to the US 5th Air Force at Charters Towers. Of the remaining two Lancers, A56-6 was taken off strength on 8 March 1943, and at the time, A56-7 was officially listed as "Missing. Aircraft left Wagga on 28 April 1943, and has not been sighted since". This mystery was solved 15 years later, in 1958, when Lancer A56-7 was located in the Healesville Hills, north-east of Melbourne.
TECHNICAL DATA: Republic P-43A-1 Lancer
DESCRIPTION:
Single-seat fighter modified for PR duties. All metal, stressed-skin construction.
POWER PLANT:
One 1200 hp Pratt and Whitney R-1830-57.
DIMENSIONS:
Span 10.97 m (36 ft); length 8.69 m (28 ft 6 in); height 4.27 m (14 ft).
WEIGHTS:
Empty 2720 kg (5996 lb); loaded 3372 kg (7435 lb).
PERFORMANCE:
Max speed 573 km/h (309 kt); Cruising speed 450 km/h (243 kt); Initial climb 868 m (2850 ft)/min; Service ceiling 38,000 ft (11 582 m); Range 1287 km (695 nm).
ARMAMENT:
Two 0.50 in and two 0.30 in machine guns replaced in PR versions by cameras.
In 1942 eight Lancers were delivered to the RAAF to augment the Buffaloes and Lightnings of the Photographic Reconnaissance Unit. Six of the aircraft, A56-1 and 2 (P-43Ds) and A56-3/6 (P-43-A-1s) were received on 31 August 1942, and the remaining two, A56-7 and 8 (P-43Ds) arrived on 10 November 1942. The Lancers operated with PRU until the following year when A56-1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 8 were transferred to the US 5th Air Force at Charters Towers. Of the remaining two Lancers, A56-6 was taken off strength on 8 March 1943, and at the time, A56-7 was officially listed as "Missing. Aircraft left Wagga on 28 April 1943, and has not been sighted since". This mystery was solved 15 years later, in 1958, when Lancer A56-7 was located in the Healesville Hills, north-east of Melbourne.
TECHNICAL DATA: Republic P-43A-1 Lancer
DESCRIPTION:
Single-seat fighter modified for PR duties. All metal, stressed-skin construction.
POWER PLANT:
One 1200 hp Pratt and Whitney R-1830-57.
DIMENSIONS:
Span 10.97 m (36 ft); length 8.69 m (28 ft 6 in); height 4.27 m (14 ft).
WEIGHTS:
Empty 2720 kg (5996 lb); loaded 3372 kg (7435 lb).
PERFORMANCE:
Max speed 573 km/h (309 kt); Cruising speed 450 km/h (243 kt); Initial climb 868 m (2850 ft)/min; Service ceiling 38,000 ft (11 582 m); Range 1287 km (695 nm).
ARMAMENT:
Two 0.50 in and two 0.30 in machine guns replaced in PR versions by cameras.
Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:34 am
Hellcat driver,
You're on the right track! Boy would it be cool to see those transitional, early war aircraft as new builts.
I mean, cmon. Everybody would want a P-34!
You're on the right track! Boy would it be cool to see those transitional, early war aircraft as new builts.
I mean, cmon. Everybody would want a P-34!
Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:23 am
yes, i did. ty
Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:32 pm
The P-43 is such an interesting aircraft because you can see the progression from the P-35 and how it led to the P-47. Lots of similarities!
I think that the P-35 was the real breakthrough aircraft though and that the P-43, while interesting, was only a transitional design.
I think that the P-35 was the real breakthrough aircraft though and that the P-43, while interesting, was only a transitional design.
Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:52 pm
You are right sir ....
OK .... I want everyone to step up right now and help me find the elusive P-43. If we all have to go to China or even Austarlia, then so be it, quit your jobs, leave your wives, sell the dog, whatever small problems you have to deal with ... "JUST DO IT" .... LET'S GO!!!!! ... Gotta find one!!!! ... lololol .... ooops! .... pheewwww!!! .... sorry, just got carried away, ....
Mark the P-43 Driver .... Oh No!!!! .... I did it again, .... hahahaha
OK .... I want everyone to step up right now and help me find the elusive P-43. If we all have to go to China or even Austarlia, then so be it, quit your jobs, leave your wives, sell the dog, whatever small problems you have to deal with ... "JUST DO IT" .... LET'S GO!!!!! ... Gotta find one!!!! ... lololol .... ooops! .... pheewwww!!! .... sorry, just got carried away, ....
Mark the P-43 Driver .... Oh No!!!! .... I did it again, .... hahahaha
Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:56 pm
Wasn't there a pic of a p-43 in the Warbirds section of Air Classics, sometime in the 70's? For some reason it seems it was in Mexican civil markings?
Ring a bell with anyone? Or do I have to go through a few hundred back issues.....(oh, nooooooo).
Joe
Ring a bell with anyone? Or do I have to go through a few hundred back issues.....(oh, nooooooo).
Joe
Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:38 am
Oooops, my bad.
Too many numbers
What was the powerplant for the P-43? Is one still avaliable. That would be the first thing in my mind, if you wanted to create a newbuild.
Too many numbers
What was the powerplant for the P-43? Is one still avaliable. That would be the first thing in my mind, if you wanted to create a newbuild.
P-43...
Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:08 pm
Guys...
I'm new here, but thought you might like to know I own a few P-43 parts!
I spent several years trying to "part together" a P-47 in my hanger, and recovered several wrecks, as well as new parts from all over the world.
One of the guys I knew pretty well was the famous Earl Reinert, and Earl sold or "tossed in" all kinds of aircraft parts for me, many of which I still own, after selling my hanger-full of parts to a man in Nevada.
I currently still own:
1) a box full of P-43 parts, from two different aircraft (one was the famous P-43 that Earl owned)...
2) a couple of panels and the pitot tube from the rare XP-47H...
3) the original canopy and entire windshield of the YP-47M, now at Chino...
4) and at least one other windshield frame recovered from a P-47N crash site on the gunnery range in Hawaii.
I also own a LOT of other intesting parts as well, such as a lot of large XB-70 parts and the tires from #1...a couple of YF-12A tires...some P-80 parts, etc.
Interestingly, I was SUPPOSED to also get both P-43 mainwheels and tires from Earl, but he died, and some guy I talked too several years ago refuses to part with them. Earl also had the entire engine mount and "dishpan" from that same P-43, although I don't know ehere that wound up. I have some great photos of that, however, and I verified it really WAS from a P-43, as it still had the data plate on it!
On top of that, I also have a photo of Earl's XP-47H prop hub and electric prop motor, and that also went somewhere that I can't locate.
He told me he also had purchased the fuselage of the XP-47J (he did, by the way...I verified that, too), and loaned the engine's famous cooling disc to someone in the neighborhood, but he said they never returned it!
Interesting to think it might still be out there somewhere!
Oh, and one final interesting note, that you guys are the first to hear!
You know that newly-restored P-40B, now in England, that was at Pearl during the attack? I once owned the left wing and a few other parts, that I had purchased after the retrieval of many of my P-47 parts. I traded the Curtiss-Wright group those P-40 parts, and they paid to ship my Thunderbolt parts to me here...but here's the cool part!
Those P-40B parts, plus some of my P-47 parts, were put together
as a mock-up for one of the "Magnum, P.I." episodes shot up in the hills! After they used them, I bought the lot, and had them all shipped here.
So, even those guys in England don't know the "Magnum" history of their new plane!! Really!
Dan S., OKC
I'm new here, but thought you might like to know I own a few P-43 parts!
I spent several years trying to "part together" a P-47 in my hanger, and recovered several wrecks, as well as new parts from all over the world.
One of the guys I knew pretty well was the famous Earl Reinert, and Earl sold or "tossed in" all kinds of aircraft parts for me, many of which I still own, after selling my hanger-full of parts to a man in Nevada.
I currently still own:
1) a box full of P-43 parts, from two different aircraft (one was the famous P-43 that Earl owned)...
2) a couple of panels and the pitot tube from the rare XP-47H...
3) the original canopy and entire windshield of the YP-47M, now at Chino...
4) and at least one other windshield frame recovered from a P-47N crash site on the gunnery range in Hawaii.
I also own a LOT of other intesting parts as well, such as a lot of large XB-70 parts and the tires from #1...a couple of YF-12A tires...some P-80 parts, etc.
Interestingly, I was SUPPOSED to also get both P-43 mainwheels and tires from Earl, but he died, and some guy I talked too several years ago refuses to part with them. Earl also had the entire engine mount and "dishpan" from that same P-43, although I don't know ehere that wound up. I have some great photos of that, however, and I verified it really WAS from a P-43, as it still had the data plate on it!
On top of that, I also have a photo of Earl's XP-47H prop hub and electric prop motor, and that also went somewhere that I can't locate.
He told me he also had purchased the fuselage of the XP-47J (he did, by the way...I verified that, too), and loaned the engine's famous cooling disc to someone in the neighborhood, but he said they never returned it!
Interesting to think it might still be out there somewhere!
Oh, and one final interesting note, that you guys are the first to hear!
You know that newly-restored P-40B, now in England, that was at Pearl during the attack? I once owned the left wing and a few other parts, that I had purchased after the retrieval of many of my P-47 parts. I traded the Curtiss-Wright group those P-40 parts, and they paid to ship my Thunderbolt parts to me here...but here's the cool part!
Those P-40B parts, plus some of my P-47 parts, were put together
as a mock-up for one of the "Magnum, P.I." episodes shot up in the hills! After they used them, I bought the lot, and had them all shipped here.
So, even those guys in England don't know the "Magnum" history of their new plane!! Really!
Dan S., OKC
Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:16 pm
A56-7 (41-6718) was reportedly rediscovered by bushwalkers in the early 1970s. It was on the side of Gordon Gully near Healesville. I can sniff around to see if it's still there as I live in the area. I can also ask some contacts what became of it. If it was recovered, the right people will know. If they don't, then it's probably still there.
Walrus
Walrus
Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:47 pm
we could hack a p-47!!!!!