Sat May 05, 2007 9:26 am
Gary Austin Wrote:
Unfortunately, I think those people would have to be of the same vintage as the airplanes we all love. They are just not making any more like that now days.
Museum guests (lots of 'em) that don't trash everything they touch. You know......people with manners and common courtesy.
Unfortunately, I think those people would have to be of the same vintage as the airplanes we all love. They are just not making any more like that now days.
Sat May 05, 2007 11:29 am
L Thompson,
Its interesting that Anson Johnson's P-51 N13Y had the same N number as Art Scholl's Chipmunk which now hangs at Udvar-Hazy. Johnson was from my home town by the way.
Steve G
Its interesting that Anson Johnson's P-51 N13Y had the same N number as Art Scholl's Chipmunk which now hangs at Udvar-Hazy. Johnson was from my home town by the way.
Steve G
Sat May 05, 2007 6:02 pm
This is getting pretty interesting. I myself am lucky enough to belong to a flying museum- Lone Star- and get to ride in and get dirty on them.
I'm pleased to see that at least a few included Axis warbirds and a few of you included flying boats. Kudos to you Per for including the big BV boat. While you guys are recovering IJN stuff, drag up a Kawanishi flying boat too.
Doug Ratchford "Canso42"
the PBY guy at LSFM
I'm pleased to see that at least a few included Axis warbirds and a few of you included flying boats. Kudos to you Per for including the big BV boat. While you guys are recovering IJN stuff, drag up a Kawanishi flying boat too.
Doug Ratchford "Canso42"
the PBY guy at LSFM
Sun May 06, 2007 9:34 am
Canso et al--
Interesting indeed! I've mused about (and written down, too) many concepts, exhibit lists, et cetera, for various theoretical aviation museums. Here are four ideas for collections...
True North Museum of Flying...in essence, a kind of flying mini-CAvM, based in a period-style hangar; would feature such types as Hurricane, Kittyhawk, Beaver and Fox Moth. If that sounds vaguely familiar, well, happily Mike Potter up Ottawa/Gatineau way has had a very similar idea, but also has the key ingredient to turn it into reality! Long live VWoC...
Walter Soplata Museum...after all is said and done at Newbury, this is a static museum based on some of the less-viable projects from Walt's, cosmetically restored/corrosion arrested, grouped in themes in a large period hangar (preferably the spectacular 30s-era structure at Chardon OH that's now a warehouse). Theme areas would include Wright Field/test flying; Cleveland races; Naval flying. Airframes/cockpits et al would include YB-36, XBT-12, XP-82, P-63, FG-1A, F7U, XAD...
Checkers Flying Museum...pretty much LThompson's idea from earlier in the thread, complete with the emphasis on '46-49 Cleveland NARs. (Gee, why would somebody named "Thompson" have a thing for that stuff?)
My version would have to include a reconstituted "Cobra II". I have a recurring fantasy involving a bright yellow and black P-39 rocketing down the hill over Geneseo College, to make an unheralded debut low and fast over the Wadsworths' turf runway...then maybe a run at Reno later in the year, alongside Mr Odegaard's F2G...
Flying Tricycles...A proof-of-concept idea to show that one can assemble an excellent historic aircraft grouping without a single tailwheel in the fleet! To include P-39, P-63, B-25, A-26, A-20, B-26, T-28, CJ6A, etc...
Fun stuff. Or it would be if I had that vital ingredient...
S.
Interesting indeed! I've mused about (and written down, too) many concepts, exhibit lists, et cetera, for various theoretical aviation museums. Here are four ideas for collections...
True North Museum of Flying...in essence, a kind of flying mini-CAvM, based in a period-style hangar; would feature such types as Hurricane, Kittyhawk, Beaver and Fox Moth. If that sounds vaguely familiar, well, happily Mike Potter up Ottawa/Gatineau way has had a very similar idea, but also has the key ingredient to turn it into reality! Long live VWoC...
Walter Soplata Museum...after all is said and done at Newbury, this is a static museum based on some of the less-viable projects from Walt's, cosmetically restored/corrosion arrested, grouped in themes in a large period hangar (preferably the spectacular 30s-era structure at Chardon OH that's now a warehouse). Theme areas would include Wright Field/test flying; Cleveland races; Naval flying. Airframes/cockpits et al would include YB-36, XBT-12, XP-82, P-63, FG-1A, F7U, XAD...
Checkers Flying Museum...pretty much LThompson's idea from earlier in the thread, complete with the emphasis on '46-49 Cleveland NARs. (Gee, why would somebody named "Thompson" have a thing for that stuff?)
My version would have to include a reconstituted "Cobra II". I have a recurring fantasy involving a bright yellow and black P-39 rocketing down the hill over Geneseo College, to make an unheralded debut low and fast over the Wadsworths' turf runway...then maybe a run at Reno later in the year, alongside Mr Odegaard's F2G...
Flying Tricycles...A proof-of-concept idea to show that one can assemble an excellent historic aircraft grouping without a single tailwheel in the fleet! To include P-39, P-63, B-25, A-26, A-20, B-26, T-28, CJ6A, etc...
Fun stuff. Or it would be if I had that vital ingredient...
S.
Sun May 06, 2007 9:52 am
Forgot one idea...not quite a museum concept, but...The idea would be to acquire certain particular airframes and place them on longterm loan in the most appropriate collection (one which could not otherwise afford to obtain them). This could of course be an adjunct to any of the other ideas. A couple examples:
P-39 (Cobra II re-creation or not) or P-63 or P-40: HAG, Geneseo NY. (These three types were built in nearby Buffalo. I picture the P-40 being finished in 99FS markings and named "Buffalo Soldier" for a double-significance meaning...)
Seafire XV PR503 and Sea Fury WG567 (Miss Merced): SAM, Dartmouth NS. Shearwater have a TBM and Firefly, but not the two classic RCN prop fighters, which are a yawning gap in their excellent display...and fetch way too much for the museum to be able to close that gap.
P-51 RCAF 9255 (Jack Hovey's semistock racer): CWH, Mt.Hope ON. The Mustang Dennis Bradley operated from CWH was painted as 424 "Hamilton Tiger" Sqn's BA:U; but Mr Hovey's desert-camo Mustang was the original BA:U with Mt.Hope-based 424. She would come northeast and be refinished in the BA:U scheme, with the name "Steel City Kitty" on the cowl, and then fly into the Hope completely unannounced some bright, pristine midwinter Saturday morning...
Ah, for the vital ingredient, eh...
S.
P-39 (Cobra II re-creation or not) or P-63 or P-40: HAG, Geneseo NY. (These three types were built in nearby Buffalo. I picture the P-40 being finished in 99FS markings and named "Buffalo Soldier" for a double-significance meaning...)
Seafire XV PR503 and Sea Fury WG567 (Miss Merced): SAM, Dartmouth NS. Shearwater have a TBM and Firefly, but not the two classic RCN prop fighters, which are a yawning gap in their excellent display...and fetch way too much for the museum to be able to close that gap.
P-51 RCAF 9255 (Jack Hovey's semistock racer): CWH, Mt.Hope ON. The Mustang Dennis Bradley operated from CWH was painted as 424 "Hamilton Tiger" Sqn's BA:U; but Mr Hovey's desert-camo Mustang was the original BA:U with Mt.Hope-based 424. She would come northeast and be refinished in the BA:U scheme, with the name "Steel City Kitty" on the cowl, and then fly into the Hope completely unannounced some bright, pristine midwinter Saturday morning...
Ah, for the vital ingredient, eh...
S.