Warbird Information Exchange

Save for a couple of examples, my guess is that almost all of the F-84F's you come across in the United States are going to be "loaned" USAF property. There are still a few residing overseas in private hands though.

The largest cache that I know of is in Belgium. They have quite an array of airframes still scattered about - though many of them have been used as ground targets. Here’s one clean example near the city of Florennes (7-30-2003).



Here’s one sitting in Rome at Bentivoglio Industrial Equipments. Photo was taken 7-12-2004…



There is a private museum in Savigny les Beaune, France that has two examples displayed outdoors. I suppose there’s a chance they might be willing to sell, or at least trade one of them.

_________________
Rob Mears
'Surviving Corsairs' Historian
robcmears@yahoo.com
http://www.robmears.com

Isn't that an F-84 that the Mid Atlantic Air Museum has? I don't know my jets well enough to know for sure.

Okay, 1) I thought the F-84 that was flying in civilian hands was in a private collection out west somewhere. Are you sure the last flying F-84 got put on a pole? Very sad!

2) In the 1950's Nashville's ANG base had F-84's and they put together a four ship aerobatic demonstration team . the pilots were Lt.'s John C. Tune, Don Follis, and two other guys, names forgotten.
A few years ago I asked Major General Follis, USAF ret. about his experience flying the F-84. His quotes; "Good airplane , just needed more engine." "Once you got it going it would really go!" He said it flew well and that they did all their maneuvers with lots of airspeed as the airplane would get you hurt if it got too slow. "Engine was slow to spool up, underpowered" (airplane overweight) , but that it was really fast for it's time. Republic tended to build airplanes too heavy.
About a year later the Air Force banned all demo flight teams except the Thunderbirds. His last remark was " If the government paved a runway at the equator that spanned the entire circumference of the globe, Republic would design an aircraft that needed every darn inch of it!!

corsairfreak, It did not go as far as we had hoped. I originaly had it worked out to go directly to NASJRB Willow Grove where our museum is. However on the day it was to be moved I got a call saying we couldn't do it. Imagine after 3 months of planning "someone" got cold feet and changed their mind. So we opted to move it to anothe field close by and dismantel it there and truck it to the base. The video link has the whole thing and some of it is preety cool.







'

I *think* I spotted an F-84 at Reading during a couple of the WW2 weekends. However I did not see it this past year. It was across the runway from the museum near the airport terminal last I saw it.

_________________
Share your story: Rutgers Oral History Archive http://oralhistory.rutgers.edu/

I am told the F-84 at the museum at in willow run, MI ( YIP ) has clear title from the air force. Maybe you could trade them .

Here's a picture I took of MAAM's F-84B last May:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2652 ... 0/F-84.jpg

The one sitting off of the end of the runway in Pittsburgh, is not on loan. I went and looked at it today, and I am going to take a few pics of her tommorrow. I don't think that she could fly again, but would be a good parts aircraft.

_________________
Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Director

Sorry to not have more info, but....I remember back around 2000 riding through an industrial ghetto of Istanbul, and there were several complete F-84s parked in an empty lot. No idea who owned them, or what they were doing there.

The ones I have seen in the U.S. have always been in pretty tired shape. Gate guards for many decades, vandalism etc. My suggestion if someone was serious about restoring a flyer, would be to buy 4 or 5 from a country that operated them in the last 20 years, and that have not had access by vandals. Maybe you could build up a flyer using the best of the parts from all five. Would also insist on finding some good engines as those are probably very rare.
Would be a lot cheaper than building up a derelict one here in the U.S. Might even be able to get a foreign country to trade one out of a museum where it's been housed indoors and unmolested in trade for a replacement static display.

Hi;

There was a nice example in Desmoine Iowa? it came out of a vo-tech school. They use to run it up until the fuel tank started leaking very badly. It was complete minus gun sight and clock. Last time I saw it it was located next to the control tower any wixers in that area? Thanks Mike

_________________
IF YOU CAN FIND IT WE CAN FIX IT

Planes of Fame has an RF-84K and Yanks has an F-84E (received in trade from Planes of Fame) a few years back:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0 ... id=0305543

Also seen on "Airliners":

52-7259 "YPSI GYPSY ROSE" on static display at the Yankee Air Force Museum at Willow Run.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0 ... id=0320119

52-7261 At George T Baker Aviation School. Version designed to be carried by B-36 - note tailplane droop, to clear bomb bay sides of B-36.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0 ... _id=NEXTID

Not true. One belongs to NMUSAF, and the other was obtained thru GSA. Shortly after 9-11 we were contacted and asked to provide photographic evidence of the status and location of the one we had obtained through them. They also inquired about another F-84 a division had, (2) T-33's, and (2) UH-1's. They may not be the property of the NMUSAF, but the government is still interested in where they are (specifically on the ground).



This one is now at NMUSAF at Dayton, restored and displayed inside.

Thanks guys for the info so far. I'm not exactly sure where my research will take me. I managed to find two F84 G models listed on the FAA database. N6599N and N6599V both out west in Wa. There also was an F84 F with an aircraft code, but nothing came up when data inputed.
I've become intrigued with this airplane as I research more. Many like it and many others hate it. I certainly like the looks of the F model over the others. I don't know what the prospect is like for importing one especially if it could turn into a nightmare.
David

What source are you getting your information from??? I have found nothing to substantiate you claim. Please correct me if I'm in error.



Here is Mr. Baugher's write-up on the Thunderstreak.

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p84_10.html

No where does it make any mention of engine difficulties.

Other aircraft that used these series of J-65:

Douglas A4D Skyhawk
Martin B-57 Canberra
Grumman F11F Tiger
Republic F-84F Thunderstreak
North American FJ-2 Fury

Shay
____________
Semper Fortis