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Re: USS Lexington

Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:00 pm

Let's see. I had a lifetime pass to Champlin for sourcing a few hard to find bits, I helped make sure the engine in an L-4 going into Shuttleworth was rebuilt both legally and authentically (although I did get paid, I would have gotten paid the same had it been been pink with polka dots), and I'm currently rebuilding/restoring a minor, yet rare, warbird on my own, rather slim, nickel.
Not a huge contribution to the warbird/antique world, but something.

Do I get my free bitching pass now?

Re: USS Lexington

Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:08 pm

shrike wrote:Let's see. I had a lifetime pass to Champlin for sourcing a few hard to find bits, I helped make sure the engine in an L-4 going into Shuttleworth was rebuilt both legally and authentically (although I did get paid, I would have gotten paid the same had it been been pink with polka dots), and I'm currently rebuilding/restoring a minor, yet rare, warbird on my own, rather slim, nickel.
Not a huge contribution to the warbird/antique world, but something.

Do I get my free bitching pass now?



Right idea, wrong point. Though I do see that this conversation is starting to go in circles. Anyone can bitch and moan about something they don't like, that's easy. We certainly all do it. Without going on a tangent, doing something for the museum does not mean bashing and nit-picking. You (proverbially) just look like an a-hole when you whine and don't do something about it. Like the French..... :lol: .

Re: USS Lexington

Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:00 pm

jesus fin christ you guys. No wonder people like Jack leave WIX.

Re: USS Lexington

Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:04 pm

shrike wrote:Let's see. I had a lifetime pass to Champlin for sourcing a few hard to find bits, I helped make sure the engine in an L-4 going into Shuttleworth was rebuilt both legally and authentically (although I did get paid, I would have gotten paid the same had it been been pink with polka dots), and I'm currently rebuilding/restoring a minor, yet rare, warbird on my own, rather slim, nickel.
Not a huge contribution to the warbird/antique world, but something.

Do I get my free bitching pass now?


Hah!!!

Re: USS Lexington

Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:24 pm

First, I'm going to apologize. My skin was feeling a little thin when the word coward was thrown around, and the challenge made. I shouldn't have risen to the bait, and I'm sorry.

I was going to end with a couple of pithy observations on WIX and ad hom. comments, but not only is this the wrong thread for it, I realize it would be pointless.

Re: USS Lexington

Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:17 am

shrike wrote:First, I'm going to apologize. My skin was feeling a little thin when the word coward was thrown around, and the challenge made. I shouldn't have risen to the bait, and I'm sorry.

I was going to end with a couple of pithy observations on WIX and ad hom. comments, but not only is this the wrong thread for it, I realize it would be pointless.



I must have missed it, I didn't see or read anyone call anyone a coward on here.

Re: USS Lexington

Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:23 am

I see a different problem here. I get this over-riding sence on wix that becasue we are all warbird nuts, and chat on a warbird forum that somehow we all have to kiss, kiss, kiss(aka suck up) to every aviation organization. This is not directed toward the LEX or any other place. But no business is immune to poor service. We all complain about poor service. From wal-mart to verizon for example. We are allowed to expess our displeasures whenever we have a problem with those. So why is it not ok for someone to comment about a visit to a air museum that paid to visit whose needs or expectations might not have been met?

Just thinking outside the box. :)

Back to lurking....

Re: USS Lexington

Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:48 am

Beautiful ship.
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Re: USS Lexington

Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:11 am

I get a nasty note from the moderator because of my stance that if you're not going to contribute time or money, don't criticize the work of other volunteers. Especially when you have no clue what the conditions/constraints are that those volunteers have to operate in.

But this thread is allowed to continue with the bashing continuing unabated....

Re: USS Lexington

Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:16 pm

the330thbg wrote:HARUMPH

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The above two examples from the Lexington are a JOKE.

Plain(plane) and simple.

HAH.., what a JOKE!

Embarassing, ridiculous and just plain disrespectful.

This halfmule job on these two birds was not due to a lack of funding. It was do to a lack of oversite. That points to management. They don't give a sugar about what they display. So i won't give a crap about supporting them.

The ONLY excuse for what they did to these birds was that they did not care.

If no one else on this board can see it, then I have to agree with the above post 'all hands on deck' that all the good ones have obviously left.

I am joining them as well. No disrespect to the great ones that have turned 'lurkers'.

Make room in the pool. :shock:


Dude, get a hobby.... A different one. Maybe not a hobby that you're all bent out of shape or nearly as anal about something being off-color by a shade or two. At this point it is my opinion that you are being completely disrespectful to the men and woman who served aboard that historic ship, and the men and woman in the Navy, and I take personal offense to this. Running a ship that size requires manpower and funding that deliberately or not deliberately requires paint that may be off. I chipped paint on a certain battleship to remove an off-white color to return it to the sugar green that it was supposed to be. That decision was made before I was born to paint it that color. I would never insult the ship, nor the folks who work on it, for it not being historically accurate. Who the hell am I to say that? If that's all you see, then you are failing to see the museum for what it's worth, and pressing this issue is just beyond retarded.
I will no longer comment further on this thread as clearly your agenda is to trash the way they are running the ship, no pun intended.


I'd like to see you go tell a warbird owner that his paint scheme is not authentic.

Re: USS Lexington

Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:06 pm

Mine is in the air as well! I leave dna any chance I get! Still waiting for the "wounds" from the A26 to heal! :drink3:

Re: USS Lexington

Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:56 pm

You are right.

They did a professional stand up job on the restoration and left no stone unturned.

Kudos to the Lady Lexington!! :drink3:
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Re: USS Lexington

Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:31 pm

the330thbg wrote:I most certainly would do just that. I called up 'Rocco'. Emailed him as well. We had a nice chat.

This is a Warbird Enthusiasts site. Where, if not here, are we able to discuss historical accuracy of supposed museum pieces.

Goodnight to you and your 5th Grade rant! :lol:

Now, now, now...

I'm sorry but this place used to be a lot more fun ten years or more ago when it was more made up of warbird owners and operators and the enthusiasts weren't quite so antagonistic. I used to be JUST an enthusiast myself and I have no problem with enthusiasts. My beef is that most of the owners and operators have written this site off because the enthusiasts have gone too far in their bashing. There was a mention of someone willing to give $500 to see the paint better. Maybe that's so, and I won't impune that person's motives, but we barely got $500 towards the $5000 we'd need to repaint the L-5... so I'll believe that when I see it. In the meantime, I'm happy the Lex and the aircraft on it are still intact and around.

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This place isn't half the fun or education it used to be.

Ryan

Re: USS Lexington

Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:33 pm

hahnej wrote:But this thread is allowed to continue with the bashing continuing unabated....

The clock may be ticking...

Re: USS Lexington

Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:14 am

As the author of the original post that started this mess, I ask the Moderator to officially kill it. There is nothing in my original post that should have triggered such a torrent of uncalled for insults. One should be able to discuss the situation without having to drop down to derogatory terms or attacking the character of others.

I don't know why the subjects of paint schemes or aircraft conditions can't be discussed without it getting out of hand and personal - completely unwarranted.
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