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Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:03 am
I found this little illustration whilst perusing popular DC-3 site...
http://www.douglasdc3.com
So anybody tried this at home?
Rope Starting...
http://www.douglasdc3.com/prop/prop.htm
Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:11 am
I have seen a B-25 pull started with a tug and a rope.
Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:20 am
Around the prop dome right????
I saw a movie once of a C-47 being started with the boot over the prop tip with the line attached to a jeep. To bad the boot didn't come off like it says in the manual because the ol' Gooney bird ate the jeep
Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:21 am
Fresno-
You must hav the same tape I have, of Carl Scholl pull starting a B-25 engine with a Jeep for the Doolittle flyover back in like 90 or 91 or something....the rope broke a few times but they got the engine going...
Mark
Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:44 am
You must hav the same tape I have, of Carl Scholl pull starting a B-25 engine with a Jeep for the Doolittle flyover back in like 90 or 91 or something....the rope broke a few times but they got the engine going...
Yeah that was the one. After taking off for the Doolittle Flight we heard that Carl blew a starter and wasn't coming along. After about 50 minutes when we made it up to Pebble Beach and watched the B-25s drop their flowers for the Doolittle tribute. We then started heading towards San Fransisco for a bay area fly over and sure enough we heard Carl on the radio and in minutes he caught up with us in the slow C-41. He mentioned that he pull started it and of course nobody believed him until we saw the video when we got back to Fresno. Then we asked what he did with the flowers and he said he dropped them while he was flying over the valley and all I could envision was some farmer driving his tractor in the field minding his own business and all of the sudden 500 lbs of carnations start raining down around him lol.
Ryan
Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:59 am
Seen it also done on a B-25 using a long rope and a VW bus. First attempt pulled the bumper of the VW, second attempt was successful.
-wc
Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:29 pm
Doesn't the B-29 manual have instructions for doing this as well?
Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:12 pm
Yes, it calls for a sherman tank and battleship chain.
Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:22 pm
In his book, Bill Lear talks about hand propping his P-38 with a human chain of guys.
Steve G
Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:38 pm
Having spent the last month and a half on the ramp crew, I have to say that I'm amazed you can hand start a B-25. Walking the props on the C-47 is a breeze, doing them on the B-17 isn't exactly fun, but the B-25 is a royal pain.
Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:21 pm
I have heard about a P-51 started that way. Hand prop a metal prop on a J-3 is bad enough
Lynn
Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:00 pm
Not exactly a warbird.
I was talking to a guy a few weeks ago, and he mentioned being in South America and watching a guy start his Cessna with a rope and a Donkey.
Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:28 pm
Having spent the last month and a half on the ramp crew, I have to say that I'm amazed you can hand start a B-25. Walking the props on the C-47 is a breeze, doing them on the B-17 isn't exactly fun, but the B-25 is a royal pain.
The rope was wrapped tightly around the hub and then the end was attached to the tug. The tug pulled on the rope which tightened the rope to the point where it grabbed the hub a rotated the prop sort of like the old gasoline small engines that were rope start where you wrap the rope around the crank.
Ryan
Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:43 pm
i guess you can practice with a balsa wood & rubberband model for practice
Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:34 am
Towards the end of the war the Japanese were so short of batteries, they to get 20 troops and pull the rope, and that was their starter.
Regards
Col
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