Warbird Information Exchange

Pima moved a B-36 too! People are short on memory and long on uninformed critique.

Not exactly short on memory. The original question was related to disassembling the airframe w/o causing damage. not about moving from point a to point b.

when this B-36 was moved there were demo saws cutting straight through spar tubes....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71vwBmnwaE8

If you had read my comments, they were about disassembly of the large, tall fuselage without slicing it up laterally (lengthwise).

The B-36 comparison is silly...real apples and oranges, the B-36 being a long tube, its fuselage is "just" 12' 6", considerably less than the height of the Mars fuselage hull. That means it would be easily accommodated, height-wise in road transport.
That diameter found by basic research, is given in two major B-36 books, so hardly a "uninformed critique".


And the Spruce Goose analogy is off as well, it's sections had a fairly short overland trip after being barged to Oregon. It's about 40 miles from Portland or 50 to Pacific City directly on the coast.
The distance from Lake Pleasant to Pima is about 160...four times that.

As far as memory goes, some of us recall when the USAFM moved its B-70 and its other large aircraft to the new museum site in the early '70s.
Yes, large aircraft can and have been moved in the past. It comes down to type and distance. There's are few direct comparisons here.
The Sunderland at Duxford is obviously close, but as noted previously, it was sliced up to fit on a ferry to get to the UK. I've seen...and been in it...dozens of times, I can't say I noticed any remedial scars, but it would be nice if Pima didn't have to do similar surgery on the Mars.

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https://www.12news.com/article/news/loc ... f2694ed5ee

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Any plans for Pima to display the Mars inside?

The TV report made it sound like they're just going to tow the fuselage in one piece.
If that's correct, that's good news.
I wonder what route they'll take to get to Tucson?
Looks too high to fit under interstate overpasses. We'll see.

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Easy peasy, they're using Google maps.

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Be good if they put a tracking system in so we could follow its progress!

(Was it the prototype A-12 which was towed from Burbank to Groom Lake largely intact and heavily wrapped up, and a crew cut down obstructing road signs as the convoy moved along the road and another bolted them back together once it had passed?)

All of the A-12's, M-21's and YF-12's were transported via road from Burbank to Groom Lake. The first few SR-71's had a shorter trip for their first flight out of Palmdale. They had a special towing cradle and the big piece was 32 feet wide.

Great article showing the planning, pictures and the route, and yes trees had to get cut and signs removed.

https://www.roadrunnersinternationale.c ... _a-12.html

Fantastic! Thanks!

Fantastic! Thanks!

There have been some cool photos on the face book or the Mars dissassembly. Vertical and Horizontal stabilizers have been removed. Engines and at least one outer wing panel have also been removed. I was shocked to see that only 4 main bolts hold the outer wing panel on.

https://www.boneyardsafari.com/single-post/looking-good

wing center section coming off next.

For anyone not following on social media the wing box is now separated and they are lifting the fuselage onto a trailer.
https://www.boneyardsafari.com/single-p ... ing-time-1

Great news.
It looks like they are not going to have to split the fuselage lengthwise.
Also, get a look at the center section...with its width, it looks like they'll have to transport it vertically, using the same height cleared routes the hull.

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