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Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:12 am
(And just to get Lex worked up a little...)
Here's the last of the Tullahoma bunch in the back lot at NMNA in July 2005, now reduced to so many beer cans.
I thought there was enough here to save. Apparently the powers that be at NMNA thought otherwise.
Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:05 am
I especially love how Buccaneer is spelled wrong.
Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:26 am
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All
Thanks for those updates,
glad to see the other good Tallechet airframe still exists and is at Pima, surely the wreck at Pensacola could have been given to Pima to assist that restoration rather than simply scrapping it?
Although obviously missing many parts the Pima airframe looks a viable static project.
Its always pleasing to see at least two examples going into long term preservation,even if none are rebuilt to fly.
regards
Mark Pilkington
Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:28 am
Mark_Pilkington wrote:.
surely the wreck at Pensacola could have been given to Pima to assist that restoration rather than simply scrapping it?
But Mark, NMNA is the
official caretaker of American Naval aviation history. They can't just be giving away airframes to other museums. Apparently that would be sending the wrong message.
NMNA is a neat collection...one of my favorite places to visit. But one could also have a fairly significant display of artifacts of his own based on the amount of material they have scrapped over the last 15-20 years. Their method of restoration is to blame: Cannibalize what you need; scrap the rest.
Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:16 am
Dan K wrote:(And just to get Lex worked up a little...)
Here's the last of the Tullahoma bunch in the back lot at NMNA in July 2005, now reduced to so many beer cans.
I thought there was enough here to save. Apparently the powers that be at NMNA thought otherwise.



That is quite upsetting.

The pukker factor.
Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:40 am
Dan,
I also love the NMNA. I feel certain that they are NOT to be blamed for the scrapping. The folks there are under the direct supervision of the NHC.
The NHC is to blame for the destruction of the airframe components.
We need to all remain focused on the real problem with Naval policies, it is the Naval Historical Center. Anyone who is disappointed with this action should write their Senator, Congressman and the Secratary of the Navy about whether the NHC should have sold valuable government property for preservation, or destroyed the heritage they claim to oversee and preserve. We must force our goverment to work FOR us (they count on us to not working at it). If people continue to apply pressure, as they did in my case, we can effect change.
I wonder if the NHC has an official Pirate Lex dart board on the wall there?
Pirate Lex
http://www.BrewsterCorsair.com
Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:46 am
I agree Lex and if they didn't have a Dart board for you ...............They will soon.
Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:20 am
Wow....

what a DeMil
Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:32 am
Dan K wrote:
Here's the last of the Tullahoma bunch in the back lot at NMNA in July 2005, now reduced to so many beer cans.
Bucaneer Beer?
What a shame...

Of course there was enough to save. I am certain someone would have been willing to give it a home if given the chance.
Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:22 am
Mark_Pilkington wrote:.
All
Thanks for those updates,
glad to see the other good Tallechet airframe still exists and is at Pima, surely the wreck at Pensacola could have been given to Pima to assist that restoration rather than simply scrapping it?
Although obviously missing many parts the Pima airframe looks a viable static project.
Its always pleasing to see at least two examples going into long term preservation,even if none are rebuilt to fly.
regards
Mark Pilkington
I've been keeping my nose out of this particular fight but I've decided to make one comment since the second Tallichet plane's presence at Pima has come up. The NMNA
did send us two fairly large crates of parts for our eventual Buccaneer restoration.
James
Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:34 am
James , I would hate to call this a fight. I think the most important thing to keep in mind is the historian's job is to get the story straight
It seems like this one is a puzzle to most of us. I would rather the story be complete than to uphold some point of personal pride. There are differing opinions as we have seen, buts lets clear up the confusion misunderstandings and work to see that the Navy changes their policy in regard to hulks.
Thanks for anothe rpiece of the puzzle.
Sincerely Jiggersfromsphilly
Sun May 01, 2022 9:22 am
OK , Its almost 18 or so years later and the one Buccaneer has been restored and is on display at the Naval Museum. is there any more information on the wrecks , parts and other surviving ones as of this date?
Thank you !
Sun May 01, 2022 9:22 am
OK , Its almost 18 or so years later and the one Buccaneer has been restored and is on display at the Naval Museum. is there any more information on the wrecks , parts and other surviving ones as of this date?
Thank you !
Sun May 01, 2022 12:01 pm
One of the aircraft I'd like to have a little corroded piece of to hang on my wall... Have the woods in Tullahoma been cleared out where they were found?
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