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Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:57 pm

Bill-

I looked around for some 'results' statistics.... couldn't easily find actual numbers for the RAF fighters

Hurricane 55% of all RAF/RN/Commonwealth Kills
Spitfire 33%

F6F Hellcat 5,171 Kills (A/A)
P-51 4,950 Kills (A/A... 48.9% of total USAAF Kills)
P-47 3,752 Kills (A/A... in late 44 it was primarily a ground attack)

So, if it's results that count it looks like the Hellcat was the best overall...

gunny

Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:49 pm

hsperdue wrote:
snj5 wrote:I never flew the Mud Hen, but have 80 hours in the F-15 B; Of course with more years and combat time in the Weasel perhaps I am biased as well... :)
best,
rt


So we all have our favorites... Bill has the Spit... you've got the F-4... but you gotta know one thing... when you call the Strike Eagle a Mud Hen you are insulting the airplane and me... it is a derogatory term like Lawn Dart is the the F-16... now you know.

gunny


but...but...it LOOKS like a mud hen :?

:twisted:

Hellcat

Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:07 pm

Scott, the Hellcat was certainly very successful WHEN and WHERE it fought. But where was it over Malta when the RAF was heavily outnumbered and living in primitive conditions both as for a food for crews and service for the planes. Or when RAF fighters first started to penetrate France and Germany and they were facing pilots like Galland, and Molders. By the time the Hellcat went into combat ( anybody have the date?) the Japanese had many inferior and poorly trained pilots, and their planes and support was not at the level of the start of the war. So trying to judge their quality only by this situation is not fully valid. The Hellcat, very good at low level in the Pacific might not have the same success as Spitfires above 25,000 feet in Europe. You prefer 6 machine guns to a cannon/machine gun combo or 4 cannons. Even so, my specs show a top speed of 375mph for F6F. If so, a Spit IX has a 41mph speed advantage, a P-51 B or Spit XIV has 65mph speed advantage over the Hellcat. That is a lot to make up. I don't believe the Cat could have done the long range high altitude escort as well as the Mustang.

Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:41 pm

hsperdue wrote:Bill-

I looked around for some 'results' statistics.... couldn't easily find actual numbers for the RAF fighters

Hurricane 55% of all RAF/RN/Commonwealth Kills
Spitfire 33%

F6F Hellcat 5,171 Kills (A/A)
P-51 4,950 Kills (A/A... 48.9% of total USAAF Kills)
P-47 3,752 Kills (A/A... in late 44 it was primarily a ground attack)

So, if it's results that count it looks like the Hellcat was the best overall...

gunny


If you want to look at Statistics... the Brewster Buffalo was the best fighter ever, in the hands of the Finns against the Russians it has the best kill ratio of the period!

Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:38 pm

So, all round all the issues taken into context it looks like the P-51 was the best<g>......

gunny

Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:03 pm

Harumph! sayeth the grunt.
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