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Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:52 am
Thank you "JWC50" for your patience in this Off Topic quest...
There are so many knowledged people here...
My sensei have Japan's largest WWII Japanese aviation URL and I hope that their OT quest might help with future quests that ARE on topic.
Thank you,
David
Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:05 am
In my best Cliff from Cheers voice, "You know it is a little known fact that out of all of the B-17's flying, non of them are Boeing built. They are all Lockheed or Douglas." This was as of a few yearsw ago, so it might have changed now.
Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:07 pm
Airdales wrote:The 717 will always be an MD-80 or DC-9 to me!
Jerry
Actually the 717 was called the MD-95 prior to the merger/buyout.
Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:45 pm
AND it was the only version never called a DC-9-xx during its evolution in addition to being the only version also being designed exclusively post merger. The MD-80, 87, and 90 were all conceived pre-merger.
Either way, the data plate on the plane says Boeing 717-200 and no aircraft were delivered as MD-95s, so I personally consider it to be a Boeing product.
It's kind of like the Apache. Everyone I know calls it a McDonnell Douglas product because they were all delivered after the Hughes/McDonnell Douglas merger. Does anyone call the CH-46 or CH-47 a "Vertol" product? No, they call it Boeing because while initially developed under the Vertol name, the merger occurred and the testing and deliveries of the aircraft occurred under the Boeing name.
I agree that calling a DC-9 a "Boeing DC-9" is weird (and I'll never do) but at the same time, the Boeing-McDonnell Douglas merger isn't unique by any means and I don't see why it should be treated any differently than the rest. Boeing took a big risk and showed a lot of confidence that they didn't see McDonnell Douglas products as inferior when they not only took on the MD-95 and made it their own as the 717-200, but they also honored all of the outstanding orders for McDonnell-Douglas product and even offered to extend production (which they did with the MD-11) if anyone wished to order more before the last standing order entered production.
Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:54 am
The photographer is still unknown...as is the "okay" to use the photo in a Japanese publication. Help sought. TIA!
Thanks to CAPFlyer for the details about the aircraft types! Thanks to Joe Scheil for posting the photo. Thanks to Motofumi Fukudomi and Tracy White, the following Aircraft "N-" numbers are decyphered:
707-320 - B707MQ Omega Air Tanker (Civilian operator. Aircraft is modified to have a drogue reel in the centerline. Contracted to fuel for the Navy and Marine Corps)
717-200 - N938AT AirTran
727-200 - N464FE FedEx (this particular aircraft was originally delivered to Eastern)
737-800 - N581AS Alaska Airlines
747-200 - N787RR Rolls Royce (testbed for the 787's new engine)
757-200 - N13110 Continental Airlines
767-300ER - N126DL Delta Airlines
777-300ER - F-GSQY Air France
Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:10 pm
Thanks, Tracey,
Per your suggestion, I have sent the neg number to the sensei. I am sure now that they can properly acquire the okay to print the photo.
Thanks greatly,
David
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