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Thunder Over Michigan Revisited

Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:40 am

I am looking for some information and confirmation of information from those that attended the show.

#1: Can anyone confirm that it was 11 Avengers in attendance? I am fairly sure that is correct, but I didn't note the S/Ns of the TBMs on the flight line.

#2: I am working on an attendance list. I know Roger Cain and Steve Dennis would probably like a copy of the draft. Anyone else? I'll ask Scott to post the final version in the downloads section when it is ready.

#3: There is always one Texan in every crowd of which the ID manages to illude me. Can anyone ID the Texan in the first photo of this Webshots album?...

http://community.webshots.com/album/123261802lGxsiI

That is it for now. I am working on posting my pics.

Mike

Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:25 pm

Mike,

I counted 11 TBMs in my photos. I can give you a list of N numbers later today. The T-6 in question is a SNJ-2 N55729.

Cheers,

Eric

Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:01 pm

AIRIC wrote:I counted 11 TBMs in my photos. I can give you a list of N numbers later today.


That's OK. I already have the list, I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss any of them (although I don't know how I would, they are huge!) before I removed the airframes that didn't make it from my list.

AIRIC wrote:The T-6 in question is a SNJ-2 N55729.


Thank-you!

Mike

Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:11 pm

I got twelve

1. Tinker
2. Williams
3. Tri-State Warbird
4. Summers
5. Chris Johnson
6. Tom Buck
7. Duffy
8. Clyman
9. CAF
10. CAF
11. Cavanaught
12. Fighter Factory

Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:53 pm

Hmmmm.... I did not see the figher factor machine...

Model: Grumman-General Motors TBM-3E Avenger
BuNo: 53454 USN
C/N: 3516
C/R: NR7030C, TBM-3E, 53454
Owner: Training Services Inc. / The Fighter Factory
Codes: "10"
History: TBM-3E 053454 USN, N7030C (by 1963), operated as tanker #D13, operated as tanker #13, restored (circa 1996-1997), to Training Services Inc. / The Fighter Factory / Gerald Yagen (2001/5/15)

I have a picture from Friday night showing 11 Avenger props in a row, and I don't have a picture of the Fighter Factory Machine from Saturday. Was it parked someplace else?

Mike

Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:07 pm

mrhenniger wrote:Hmmmm.... I did not see the figher factor machine...

Model: Grumman-General Motors TBM-3E Avenger
BuNo: 53454 USN
C/N: 3516
C/R: NR7030C, TBM-3E, 53454
Owner: Training Services Inc. / The Fighter Factory
Codes: "10"
History: TBM-3E 053454 USN, N7030C (by 1963), operated as tanker #D13, operated as tanker #13, restored (circa 1996-1997), to Training Services Inc. / The Fighter Factory / Gerald Yagen (2001/5/15)

I have a picture from Friday night showing 11 Avenger props in a row, and I don't have a picture of the Fighter Factory Machine from Saturday. Was it parked someplace else?

Mike


It was at the very end of the line, at least it was when I saw it. It was definately at the site along with their Corsair.

Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:22 pm

Tim Savage wrote:I got twelve

1. Tinker
2. Williams
3. Tri-State Warbird
4. Summers
5. Chris Johnson
6. Tom Buck
7. Duffy
8. Clyman
9. CAF
10. CAF
11. Cavanaught
12. Fighter Factory


My list matched Tim's. Of course the fact I could ID all the TBMs other than one (#5) on sight is really sad.

Thanks for the SNJ ID. I thought it was a SNJ-2.

Jim

Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:38 pm

It looks like I missed one! I thought I got pictures of everyone of them taxiing in after their flight on Saturday. Aaaahhhh shhhh.... shoot! :x

Mike

Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:45 pm

mrhenniger wrote:It looks like I missed one! I thought I got pictures of everyone of them taxiing in after their flight on Saturday. Aaaahhhh shhhh.... shoot! :x

Mike


It didn't fly on Saturday, so maybe that is why you missed. It left early Sunday also.

Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:52 pm

Mike--

I took a couple shots of that TBM. It was the grey one which sat through Saturday's show with its wings folded. Am probably picking the pix up tonight; will see how they came out...

S.

Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:03 pm

Hey Mike,

It was a busy day at work when I posted. On this page http://www.airic.ca/html/yankee_af_2004.html I have a shot of every TBM that was there. The Fighter Factory machine did not fly all weekend excpet to fly home. I will have to talk to Jerry about that :)

Eric

Thunder revisited!

Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:43 am

OK, I'll make this brief, or as best that I can! I know right now that I will leave out names....... So, thanks to everyone! Tim, Jim, Tina, Vanessa, Job, Charles, Tray and Duane, Paul Redlich, Todd Hackbarth and Paul Draper, Mike, Eric, Dave "Mongo" Tinker, Larry Tinker, Rick Seigfred, Dick "P-51 Man" Phillips (we gotto go back to Keirnan's for another round of "Beef and Ribs"). Thanks also to Neil Melton and John Shoffner for allowing Tim Savage and I to spend time in their P-47 cockpits! See, forgetting names already, the Sanders brothers, Brad Pilgrim (ditto about BKD), Gary Applebaum, Mike Rawson, Greg Muir, Doug Jeanes, Mike Burke, and John Lane. Thanks for showing a Texas boy a great time!
Alan..
Oh I forgot. Before Gary bought the TBM that is now owned by Jerry Yagen, it was co-owned and flown by Bob "Snackbar" Schneider of Hawkins, Tx. The other owner was Dave Tallichet. Bob flew the airplane for several years in the early to mid 90's. It was overall gloss blue with the name "Semper Fi" on the cowling.

Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:29 am

Hi Mike,

Just got home from Michigan last night. Had very limited access to the internet while gone (dial up), and couldn't get to the site very often.

Look forward to your updated list.

Two corrections, were the registration numbers on the BT-13 California Girl N61916, and the Fairey Firefly C-GBDG..........Roger

Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:19 am

Anonymous wrote:Two corrections, were the registration numbers on the BT-13 California Girl N61916, and the Fairey Firefly C-GBDG..........Roger


California Girl is N70030 and the Firefly is C-GBDG. Will have an update today or tomorrow.

Mike

SNV-1, T-28A

Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:27 am

Mike,

I am almost certain the SNV-1 that Bruce Koch had at "Thunder Over Michigan" as "California Girl" is N61916 and not N70030. I will check this when I get home tonight.

Also, I believe the T-28A in South Vietnamese colors that Jim Church mentioned is "Littl' Jugs", "AK", 50-221, NX221LH and registered to Trojan LLC which I believe to be Larry Hoffmeister.

Todd
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