[BAD/OLD PIC QUIZ] Curtiss Kittyhawk #2
Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:31 pm
This time I know the date and place, but not the identity of the aircraft. Take it away guys!
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Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:37 pm
P-40N 44-7619 N1251N I believe the late Bob Downey (raced F1s in Reno) and a guy named George Mokski fixed this plane up with the canopy off of a jet of some kind. Shot at Chino???
T J
T J
Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:29 am
This does look to be 44-7619. I'm usually bad with locations so, again, I'm clueless!
Some more photos of this Hawk in this configuration... or, as I call it, the 'Blackhawks' P-40.
These two images came from the web... grabbed 'em off the Usenet Replayer I think. Unfortunately I don't know where these
photos were taken or who took them.
Here's a few shots taken of 44-7619 by my Dad. I need to rescan these, as they're bad scans which I tried to clean up before I knew
what the heck I was doing in Photoshop. So they fit right in with the 'Bad/Old Photos' theme. Anyone care to guess the where
and when of these?
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Some more photos of this Hawk in this configuration... or, as I call it, the 'Blackhawks' P-40.
These two images came from the web... grabbed 'em off the Usenet Replayer I think. Unfortunately I don't know where these
photos were taken or who took them.
Here's a few shots taken of 44-7619 by my Dad. I need to rescan these, as they're bad scans which I tried to clean up before I knew
what the heck I was doing in Photoshop. So they fit right in with the 'Bad/Old Photos' theme. Anyone care to guess the where
and when of these?
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:26 am
Steve
Batavia? Around 1995?
Tim
Batavia? Around 1995?
Tim
Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:30 am
TimAPNY wrote:Steve
Batavia? Around 1995?
Tim
Nope. I was there and that P-40 was not. Assuming of course you are talking about the Wings of Eagles Air Show.
http://community.webshots.com/album/475020069HPnasg
Mike
Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:26 am
Ooh, you guys are good.
I am no good at this location guessing. Kalamazoo would be too easy but it looks like it could be.
As for the old configuration, I believe I heard somewhere that the canopy was the rear piece of a T-33 unit, put on backwards, with a custom windscreen.
The picture at the top of this thread was taken at Ontario CA (Tallmantz) and the date was Sept. 16, 1969.
Check out that yellow CTV-2 Gorgon missile in the lower right corner. This was sort of an American equivalent to the V-1 (although not a direct copy like the Loon) intended for pre-invasion softening up of Japan. It's missing the pulse jet engine which fit on top of the fuselage and fin.
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I am no good at this location guessing. Kalamazoo would be too easy but it looks like it could be.
As for the old configuration, I believe I heard somewhere that the canopy was the rear piece of a T-33 unit, put on backwards, with a custom windscreen.
The picture at the top of this thread was taken at Ontario CA (Tallmantz) and the date was Sept. 16, 1969.
Check out that yellow CTV-2 Gorgon missile in the lower right corner. This was sort of an American equivalent to the V-1 (although not a direct copy like the Loon) intended for pre-invasion softening up of Japan. It's missing the pulse jet engine which fit on top of the fuselage and fin.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:42 am
Are you sure it isn't Ontario when Planes of Fame was there?k5083 wrote:The picture at the top of this thread was taken at Ontario CA (Tallmantz) and the date was Sept. 16, 1969.
Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:44 pm
bdk wrote:Are you sure it isn't Ontario when Planes of Fame was there?k5083 wrote:The picture at the top of this thread was taken at Ontario CA (Tallmantz) and the date was Sept. 16, 1969.
The P-40 was owned by Ed Maloney at the time, and he was operating out of Ontario so I guess that makes sense!
Thanks for posting these photos gentlemen. Always cool to see some "images of the past"
T J
Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:32 am
Well, I guess I'm not as clueless on locations as I thought. Ontario would have been my choice based on the registry info and
a little 'edjmucated' guessing... oh well!
As an aside, I was doing searches for the CTV-2 to help pin down the location but found very little, unfortunately. Anyone
have any photos of this particular example?
Back to the Hawk...
That canopy... my first thought was also a T-33 hood (the registry says F-80, which it clearly is not) but I would think that
it's installed 'correctly'... that is, not backwards. The angle of the frame is right... but then I look at the curvature of the glass
and I get all mixed up!! LOL
Anyhoo, the photos of Sue Parish in her pink P-40 would probably be impossible to identify unless you were there or
were intimately familiar with the location.
'Twas Niagara Falls in 1982.
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a little 'edjmucated' guessing... oh well!
As an aside, I was doing searches for the CTV-2 to help pin down the location but found very little, unfortunately. Anyone
have any photos of this particular example?
Back to the Hawk...
That canopy... my first thought was also a T-33 hood (the registry says F-80, which it clearly is not) but I would think that
it's installed 'correctly'... that is, not backwards. The angle of the frame is right... but then I look at the curvature of the glass
and I get all mixed up!! LOL
Anyhoo, the photos of Sue Parish in her pink P-40 would probably be impossible to identify unless you were there or
were intimately familiar with the location.
'Twas Niagara Falls in 1982.
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:31 am
Peter-Four-Oh wrote:Well, I guess I'm not as clueless on locations as I thought. Ontario would have been my choice based on the registry info and
a little 'edjmucated' guessing... oh well!
Yes, I erred in saying Tallmantz before; the slide is labeled "Ont. Air Museum".
Tallmantz was then in Orange County, correct?
Peter-Four-Oh wrote:As an aside, I was doing searches for the CTV-2 to help pin down the location but found very little, unfortunately. Anyone
have any photos of this particular example?
It is possible that Dick took some better shots of the CTV-2 that same day. I have to go check his "Rockets & Missiles" binder.
Time for Kittyhawk #3 (see new thread). People seem to like these old pics, and I'm learning a lot, so I'll post one per weekday until someone makes me stop.
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