Curtiss P-36 38-102? ...

[Mark Allen M]

Can't quite tell if that's an '8102' ... J Baugher's site states the following on 38-102: 'Curtiss P-36A to Hawaii with 45th PS 15th PG at Wheeler Field. Destroyed Dec 7, 1941'
Interesting stateside scheme regardless.
Hmmm!

[Clifford Bossie]

Curtiss Design 75 Hawk P-36 and International Derivatives by Dan Hagedon and Amaru Tincopa lists 38-102 with the 7th AF as an RP-36A in 1944. 7 Dec, 1941 it had been with the 45th PS, 15th PG. It was probably still based in Hawaii in 1944.

[Mark Allen M]

So that’s interesting. Sounds like it survived the attack and wasn’t destroyed. Or damaged in the attack and repaired.

[junkman9096]

And here it says destroyed on Dec 7 although I've no idea of their original information source.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/141659

That would be a colorful modeling subject with (likely) white "Q"s and squadron leader stripes on the fuselage, red bordered national insignia even though the proportions are all wonky.

[Mark Allen M]

I'd agree that it would be a nice subject for the modeling guys.

[Clifford Bossie]

And here it says destroyed on Dec 7 although I've no idea of their original information source.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/141659

That would be a colorful modeling subject with (likely) white "Q"s and squadron leader stripes on the fuselage, red bordered national insignia even though the proportions are all wonky.

Aviation Safety credits Joe Baugher's site. It is possible Joe's information was incomplete, or incorrect.

Has me wondering if I have a P-36 in the stash I can paint up like 102.

[Chris Brame]

Curtiss Design 75 Hawk P-36 and International Derivatives by Dan Hagedon and Amaru Tincopa lists 38-102 with the 7th AF as an RP-36A in 1944. 7 Dec, 1941 it had been with the 45th PS, 15th PG. It was probably still based in Hawaii in 1944.

Clifford, does that book have any record of a P-36 being transferred to Greenville, SC in 1943 as some sort of ground trainer? Number on the tail is "820" (38-20 or 38-20X?):

[Clifford Bossie]

Curtiss Design 75 Hawk P-36 and International Derivatives by Dan Hagedon and Amaru Tincopa lists 38-102 with the 7th AF as an RP-36A in 1944. 7 Dec, 1941 it had been with the 45th PS, 15th PG. It was probably still based in Hawaii in 1944.

Clifford, does that book have any record of a P-36 being transferred to Greenville, SC in 1943 as some sort of ground trainer? Number on the tail is "820" (38-20 or 38-20X?):

P-36 Greenville SC 1943g.jpg

P-36 Greenville SC 1943d.jpg

Chris - A quick perusal of the data in the book does not seem to show anything specific to Greenville SC. However, 38-20 survived until at least Feb 43 at Eagle Pass TX. The P-36Cs in the 38-20X range are also possibilities, except 38-203 which was written off Dec 1939. In short, I do not have an identity of the P-36 in the photo you posted.

I picked up the book at the IPMS nationals in Omaha and if anyone is interested in Hawk 75 and P-36s, this is the book to have.

[Mark Allen M]

Chris, several photos of it here stating: "Air Service Command. 35th service squadron of the 25th service group."

https://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?va ... &op=PHRASE