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Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:16 pm
https://www.flyingmag.com/collings-foun ... h-victims/Collings Foundation Reaches Settlement with ‘Nine-0-Nine’ Crash Victims
The Collings Foundation has settled legal claims involving eight of the 10 passengers who were aboard its B-17 Nine-0-Nine when it crashed at Hartford’s Bradley International Airport (KBDL) in Connecticut on October 2, 2019.
Two other passengers reached a deal in 2021. Terms of the settlement, which was mediated by a retired judge, will not be made public...
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:33 pm
Rumor is that part of the settlement is that Collings can never take another passenger up for hire in any of their aircraft ever again. Can someone verify or deny this?
If correct, that would pretty much be the end of the vast majority of flying operations for them.
Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:52 am
That would be a strange addition to a settlement like this if you ask me... but who knows. I suspect we'll only learn of something like this through the foundation itself. The other parties don't really have to disclose anything about such a settlement and may not want to.
Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:37 am
OD/NG wrote:Rumor is that part of the settlement is that Collings can never take another passenger up for hire in any of their aircraft ever again. Can someone verify or deny this?
It would seem that would be easy to check.
Just look at their website or give them a call and see if they are taking reservations.
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JohnB on Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:57 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:49 am
Archer wrote:That would be a strange addition to a settlement like this if you ask me... but who knows. I suspect we'll only learn of something like this through the foundation itself. The other parties don't really have to disclose anything about such a settlement and may not want to.
It also seems very hard to enforce being that this is a civil agreement relating specifically to Collings Foundation. It would be very easy to simply spin up a new business entity, sell the aircraft to the new entity, then re-certify for exemption under the new entity. The FAA obviously has jurisdiction over the the exemption and there will be hurdles there, but the FAA is not governed by whatever agreement is made in this civil suit.
Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:46 pm
Archer wrote:The other parties don't really have to disclose anything about such a settlement and may not want to.
Part of the settlement might be nobody
can discuss it. That's not uncommon in high profile (and high
dollar) settlements.
Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:26 am
It's actually stated in the first post: "Terms of the settlement, which was mediated by a retired judge, will not be made public...". If it were to involve a cessation of passenger carrying, you would not be able to keep that out of the news.
Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:25 pm
Between what I can only imagine as a near impossible insurance rate after this , if they could even get it, and the FAA, I cannot imagine them ever restarting the tour. The crash was now four years ago and the worst of Covid is over , there’s no sign of them coming back. Nothing to do with a civil settlement, which would have no control over this.
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