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Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Mon Oct 31, 2022 6:54 am

Fabulous pictures! Thanks for sharing. One does not often see photos of the step-nosed C-46.

Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:58 am

mike furline wrote:Anyone notice the F-38 #5266 early chin intakes and odd canopy, X9 under left wing?
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p38regis ... 12048.html
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.o ... =3&t=66054

Yeah, that was an odd one!

Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:17 am

Outstanding pics!! So many questions, what's the story on the P-47 named Dallas? The odd canopy on the F (?) 38, I'll have more after I look through them again :drink3:

Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:26 am

Those are beautiful shots - that F-38 canopy is similar to the two-seater which was used for laminar flow research.

And a big thankyou too for the gorgeous shots of the F-86A-1.

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Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:33 am

The P-47 on display is now in the collection of the Yanks Air Museum. It was flown by Bill Odom as the Reynolds Bombshell...ended up with Earl Rienert before Yanks. I've flown over Whiteman Airport hundreds of times over the years. It looked too small to fit all these airframes. I would guess the 'airshow' photos were taken at Burbank. that's just a guess, some of the mountains match up with images from google maps. I also had a look at Whiteman through the lens of historicaerials.com...there is only one small hangar on the field circa 1952. These are absolutely magnificent photos...a real time portal.

Jim

Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:26 pm

Very cool pics Mark! Great find! Looks like BT-13 engines on the trimotor? I wonder how much that upped the performance!? And A cuffless F-51D, I wonder why they would take them off?

Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:17 pm

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Is a F-84, not F-86.

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Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:08 pm

That’s an amazing color collection, thanks Mark.

Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:20 pm

The XH-11 threw me for a loop - never heard of it.

Here are a couple of links:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotorcraft_XR-11

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/rotorcraft-xr-11-xh-11.1147/

(a one-off - how did this come to be in the US?)

Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:01 pm

quemerford wrote:Those are beautiful shots - that F-38 canopy is similar to the two-seater which was used for laminar flow research.


I would hazard to say that it is not only similar but, in fact, the very same aircraft.

Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:16 pm

C VEICH wrote:
quemerford wrote:Those are beautiful shots - that F-38 canopy is similar to the two-seater which was used for laminar flow research.


I would hazard to say that it is not only similar but, in fact, the very same aircraft.


Yes it is. I posted all of that information in the 4th post.

Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:05 am

Correctly if I am wrong BUT according to the 1947 Sectional chart Whiteman Airport had a 3300 foot runway. I cannot imagine that all of those heavy aircraft (e.g. B-45 Tornado, C-69 constellation, C-54 Skymaster et.al) would risk attempt a landing on such a short airfield. Looking at the mountain range in the background I am under the impression that these aircraft were located at nearby Burbank. The last few photos of privately owned light aircraft may well have indeed been photographed at Whiteman in Pacoima. BTW, todays Whiteman airport runway has been lengthened to 4100 ft.

Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:15 pm

jdvoss wrote:Correctly if I am wrong BUT according to the 1947 Sectional chart Whiteman Airport had a 3300 foot runway. I cannot imagine that all of those heavy aircraft (e.g. B-45 Tornado, C-69 constellation, C-54 Skymaster et.al) would risk attempt a landing on such a short airfield. Looking at the mountain range in the background I am under the impression that these aircraft were located at nearby Burbank. The last few photos of privately owned light aircraft may well have indeed been photographed at Whiteman in Pacoima. BTW, todays Whiteman airport runway has been lengthened to 4100 ft.


Yes, Burbank was mentioned in previous posts as well.

Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:00 am

mike furline wrote:Anyone notice the F-38 #5266 early chin intakes and odd canopy, X9 under left wing?
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p38regis ... 12048.html
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.o ... =3&t=66054

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N91300, with a survey nose
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Re: 1948 Pacoima CA Airshow (color pics) ...

Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:40 pm

JimH wrote:The P-47 on display is now in the collection of the Yanks Air Museum. It was flown by Bill Odom as the Reynolds Bombshell...ended up with Earl Rienert before Yanks. I've flown over Whiteman Airport hundreds of times over the years. It looked too small to fit all these airframes. I would guess the 'airshow' photos were taken at Burbank. that's just a guess, some of the mountains match up with images from google maps. I also had a look at Whiteman through the lens of historicaerials.com...there is only one small hangar on the field circa 1952. These are absolutely magnificent photos...a real time portal.

Jim

The large hangar with the peeling paint sure looks like one of the Pacific Airmotive hangars that used to be either side of the terminal at BUR & predated it.

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