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Re: Recent Photo of Aluminum Overcast (B-17G 44-85740)

Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:39 pm

How did this get the tail (and other?) damage?

Re: Recent Photo of Aluminum Overcast (B-17G 44-85740)

Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:44 pm

More info. Source: https://www.eaa.org/eaa/news-and-public ... ricane-ian

September 30, 2022 — EAA’s B-17 Aluminum Overcast, which has been based in Punta Gorda, Florida, for the past year while awaiting repairs to its wing structure, apparently sustained only minor damage as Hurricane Ian came ashore in that area of the Gulf Coast earlier this week and caused tremendous damage in that region.

“We were incredibly fortunate that the aircraft did not suffer any major damage, from what early indications tell us,” said Jack J. Pelton, EAA CEO and chairman of the board. “Our thanks to Arcadia Aerospace Industries for looking after the airplane and taking all the precautions they could prior to the storm’s landfall and during the event.”

The hangar where the B-17 was parked did suffer substantial damage, but early inspection shows only one piece of structure struck the B-17’s tail section, which is repairable. The fuselage was not damaged from initial inspection done on-site, although there is a great deal of debris in the hangar that must be cleaned up.

“The first priority is ensuring the hangar structure is safe to enter before sending our people there to further inspect the airframe,” Pelton said. “We don’t have an exact timeline for that to occur, but we are very fortunate compared to the very sad loss of life and property that occurred throughout southwest Florida during the hurricane. Our thoughts are with all in that area, including our many EAA members and friends.”

Aluminum Overcast has been in Punta Gorda since March 2021, when a routine pre-flight inspection revealed a crack emanating from the left sheer web, which is a secondary support structure for the wing. The only way to repair that is by removing the wing. The repair itself is not overly complicated, but getting to it is. As the wing was removed, EAA teams noticed other things that would be best served by repairing them at the same time. The proper parts for the vintage World War II bomber are currently being specially manufactured for the repairs.

Re: Recent Photo of Aluminum Overcast (B-17G 44-85740)

Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:13 am

It appears the plane will be there in Florida for quite some time.

Re: Recent Photo of Aluminum Overcast (B-17G 44-85740)

Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:40 am

Asking for a friend; "Why the hell didn't they get a ferry permit and move it home or to the ideal place for this work? . My old C-130A squadron had a couple of Herks that had bad spar cracks. Heck, all of the A's had spar cracks and subsequent reduced loads. Tow of the A models were supposed to be so bad that they would never fly again as we were getting new H-1 models. Several months later they were flown out of there. Leaving the airplane outdoors in the Florida climate when it's going to be down for years doesn't seem like the ideal solution.

Re: Recent Photo of Aluminum Overcast (B-17G 44-85740)

Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:40 am

Asking for a friend; "Why the hell didn't they get a ferry permit and move it home or to the ideal place for this work? . My old C-130A squadron had a couple of Herks that had bad spar cracks. Heck, all of the A's had spar cracks and subsequent reduced loads. Tow of the A models were supposed to be so bad that they would never fly again as we were getting new H-1 models. Several months later they were flown out of there. Leaving the airplane outdoors in the Florida climate when it's going to be down for years doesn't seem like the ideal solution.

Re: Recent Photo of Aluminum Overcast (B-17G 44-85740)

Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:49 am

From what I've heard, the decision was made not to ferry based on chance of doing more damage, or causing the loss of the aircraft.

Re: Recent Photo of Aluminum Overcast (B-17G 44-85740)

Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:09 pm

Maybe it takes a few days to install and rig a B-17 wing so they didn't have enough time to fly it out even if they wanted to? Just a guess.

Re: Recent Photo of Aluminum Overcast (B-17G 44-85740)

Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:06 pm

marine air wrote:Leaving the airplane outdoors in the Florida climate when it's going to be down for years doesn't seem like the ideal solution.


First, I think they expected the repairs to go faster than they did. I believe the scope changed as they got into the project.

Second, the airplane was hangared until the hurricane broke the hangar.

Third, I doubt the airplane spends years outside. A few months maybe.

Re: Recent Photo of Aluminum Overcast (B-17G 44-85740)

Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:47 pm

Well , it's owned by the EAA not "Daddy War bucks." It took the EAA many decades to rebuild their Ford Trimotor and B-25H after a tornado in the early 1970's. They never rebuilt their Lockheed 12 after a crash (fuel starvation). Sadly, it may take years but let's hope for the best.
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