The other 4 engine French bomber.

[Michel Lemieux]

The other 4 engine French bomber.

I think I can remember doing a piece on this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%A9guet_482

But, I read a bit more and found this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloch_MB.162


Intended for air races!!!! : https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-bloch-aircraft/mb-162/

[Michel Lemieux]

Found the post on the Bréguet!

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=70226&p=620582&hilit=Br%C3%A9guet+482#p620582

[Michel Lemieux]

Challenge....what is popping out in this pic????

Should be easy!!! lol....

[Kyleb]

The spinners?

[AG pilot]

All the propellers rotate toward the fuselage.

[Michel Lemieux]

Both!

[Mick G]

Interesting. You just don't see 4 engine taildraggers. Looking into this, I fell into the rabbit hole and found its cousin SE.161 Languedoc. What a pretty airplane, sleek, long twin tail, 4 engine tail dragger!

[fortrena]

French engines of the 30s like the Gnome et Rhone 14 M and 14N, as well as the Hispano Suiza 12 Y, were available in left-handed and right-handed versions. Their use on multi engine aircraft reduced torque on take off, and the effects of losing an engine in mid flight.

Be safe

[Michel Lemieux]

French engines of the 30s like the Gnome et Rhone 14 M and 14N, as well as the Hispano Suiza 12 Y, were available in left-handed and right-handed versions. Their use on multi engine aircraft reduced torque on take off, and the effects of losing an engine in mid flight.

Be safe

Did not know tks!

Then the P-82 was not alone!

[fortrena]

If memory serves me right, the Lockheed P-38 Lightning flew with "handed" propellers.

[LysanderUK]

If memory serves me right, the Lockheed P-38 Lightning flew with "handed" propellers.

Yes that's correct, interestingly the XP38 flew with inwardly-handed props but production examples all had outwardly handed props. There were problems with tail buffeting that were thought to be due to prop vortices of the inwardly handed props, although by trial and error it was eventually found to be caused by disturbed airflow around the wing-roots which was cured by the addition of wing-root fillets. Unfortunately, even though the fillets fixed the trouble the outwardly handed props were retained, leading to the P38 having a slightly higher single-engine safety speed than it otherwise might have.

[Mick G]

French engines of the 30s like the Gnome et Rhone 14 M and 14N, as well as the Hispano Suiza 12 Y, were available in left-handed and right-handed versions. Their use on multi engine aircraft reduced torque on take off, and the effects of losing an engine in mid flight.

Be safe

Did not know tks!

Then the P-82 was not alone!

What is that contraption in your third picture????

[dhfan]

Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant. Originally designed as a glider but then equipped with eventually six Gnome engines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_323

The P-82 was certainly not alone in having handed engines. The Westland Whirlwind had handed R-R Peregrines and the whole engine on one side rotated in the opposite direction. Rolls-Royce decided that was a complete pain in the backside and more trouble than it was worth so when it came to the Merlins for the de Havilland Hornet they just put an extra idler gear in the reduction gear train on one side.

Interesting. You just don't see 4 engine taildraggers. Looking into this, I fell into the rabbit hole and found its cousin SE.161 Languedoc. What a pretty airplane, sleek, long twin tail, 4 engine tail dragger!

How many 4 engine taildraggers is none?
Boeing B-17, Armstrong Whitworth Ensign, Avro Lancaster and descendants, Short Stirling, Handley Page Halifax and descendants, Fw 200 Condor, Junkers Ju 290 - just off the top of my head.
I seem to remember a reasonably attractive Italian bomber too, and the Russian Petlyakov Pe-8.