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A couple of "Faulty Vultee's" ...

Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:59 pm

... Seems these tail configurations were a no go!! in the development of the Vultee Vengeance. These photos were taken at the Vultee Downey CA plant in 1941.
Photo source: USC digital archives

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This is the Downey plant as well from the flight tower in 1942.

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This is the Downey plant as well from the flight tower in 1942.

Below is the Vultee Vengeance tail configuration I'm used to seeing.

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Re: A couple of "Faulty Vultee's" ...

Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:51 pm

Starting with the Helldiver, the US had some fugly single engine attack/dive bombing/torpedo aircraft until Douglas built the Spad...

Re: A couple of "Faulty Vultee's" ...

Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:40 pm

I rather like the twin tailed Vengeance.

Re: A couple of "Faulty Vultee's" ...

Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:57 pm

Vultee was good at Faulty!

XA-19 http://all-aero.com/index.php/56-planes ... ltee-ya-19
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XA-41 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vultee_XA-41
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Re: A couple of "Faulty Vultee's" ...

Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:32 am

mike furline wrote:Vultee was good


In defense of Vultee I think the XA-41 was considered to be an excellent aircraft, no? Just came along a bit too late.

Re: A couple of "Faulty Vultee's" ...

Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:41 am

It seems that the twin tail was part of the original Model 72 design. From page 8 of "Vengeance!: The Vultee Vengeance Dive Bomber" by Peter C. Smith, 1986:

"The original Model 72 was a two-seater, single-engined, full-cantilever, low-winged monoplane with twin tail surfaces ..." The italics are in the original text.

A bit later in the same reference on page 131, various pilots, make comments about the Vengeance's performance as a dive-bomber, including this:

"This reflected earlier comments made during a trial flight at Nashville by Vultee test pilot, Harold Kincheloe, also a former US Navy pilot, 'She handles as well as a Pursuit' and by Lieutenant W. D. Carter, another Guadalcanal and Dauntless veteran, who said after a trial flight that the Vengeance was a much-better dive-bomber 'than anything the Navy currently is flying'."

Just FYI. Randy

Re: A couple of "Faulty Vultee's" ...

Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:03 am

Most Aussie pilots who flew them reckoned they were nice to fly..." like a Cadillac of the skies".....
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