An unusual Sabre modification ...

[Mark Allen M]

An RCAF Canadair CL-13 Sabre modification. (Official RCAF photos)

Last edited by Mark Allen M on Sat May 05, 2018 7:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[martin_sam_2000]

An RCAF Canadair CL-13 Sabre modification. No stated information on these photos. Not sure what this modification was intended to achieve.

From what i can find, it was to test the area rule concept in the f-86. The hunps were made from wood and aluminium and appeteantly it was found to not benefit performance at all.

Sean

[JohnB]

Probably a fairing for additional engine accessories.
A left field guess...an attempt to make it conform to area rule (like the back end of an F-102)?

[quemerford]

Lovely photos Mark. Many thanks!

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[Scott Rose]

It's to store beer. It's Canadian and every Canadian I know always has a magical ever full trunk of beer. So that must be what it's for.

[DH82EH]

Ding ding ding ding ding!!!!!!
We have a winner!
Well done Scott.

Andy

[bdk]

Yeah, looks like an area ruling experiment. F-86 probably wasn't fast enough to make good use from it. Early F-102s were not area ruled. The later ones were however.

[Scott Rose]

I found this Wikipedia on the Area Rule pretty interesting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_rule

[Invader26]

Neat but I don't see any speed brakes on this one..

[Mark Allen M]

Lovely photos Mark. Many thanks!

The information you posted was solid gold as usual. May I ask for you to post it again? I’d like to add it to my archives.

Thanks kindly

Mark

[quemerford]

Lovely photos Mark. Many thanks!

The information you posted was solid gold as usual. May I ask for you to post it again? I’d like to add it to my archives.

Thanks kindly

Mark

Certainly: I assumed folks were having more fun guessing what it might have all been about:

23021 first flight 24 October 1953, then to 11 Technical Services Unit at Canadair 11 January 1955 for conversion as shown; then to National Aeronautical Establishment, Uplands on 3 February 1955. However looking at those dates, I'd strongly suspect that the conversion was done Oct53 thru Jan55 and that the 11 TSU assignment was for acceptance etc.

Then back to 11 TSU 10 December 1956, "...for restoration to original configuration and embodiment of all outstanding 6A and 6B mods" and assigned to 1 (F) OTU at Chatham on 12 August 1957. Retired to 6 RD Mountain View 22 September 1969 and sold to Maritime Aircraft Overhaul & Repair Ltd of Moncton NB (David S McEwen) and on to Flight Systems Inc, of Mojave CA (registered N1049D May 1979); converted to QF-86E drone for US Army and written off on 1 February 1980 after ground station malfunction at White Sands NM.

I still think it's beer-related.

[CAPFlyer]

Sadly, it appears the photos have gone now so I can't see what you guys were looking at.

[airnutz]

Sadly, it appears the photos have gone now so I can't see what you guys were looking at.

Still works for me...or he fixed 'em since your post at 5:52.

[MacHarvard]

I noticed this morning that all of Mark's photos on all posts on flickr are no longer visible on Firefox, but I just went to Chrome and they are there. Obviously a browser issue.

Doug

[CAPFlyer]

Nope, still not working for me. Flickr says that "This photo is no longer available" both here and when I click the link. I've tried clearing the cache and all that fun stuff, but it doesn't change it. I can oddly see Mark's pictures in other threads just fine. It's only these that are giving me trouble. I've used Chrome, Firefox, and (ugh) IE with the same issue.

I also noticed that when I go to Flickr and try to report the problem, it takes me to the OATH sign-in page, so I'm thinking it's something to do with that whole Flickr/SmugMug/AOL/Yahoo/etc. "consolidation" that's going on.