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Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:21 pm
Ok gents, there is an ongoing discussion on one of the R/C boards regarding the color of the leading edges on Blue Angel Bearcats. Was it yellow, silver, natural aluminum, polished aluminum, or what? Does anyone have color pics or a reliable source confirming what was used? I am not, of course, referring to the all blue scheme but that which came a bit later. TIA
Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:44 pm
I don't know when these were taken but they both are forms of evidence
Trey
Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:25 pm
Rob, I always assumed it was as you state, natural metal on the leading edges. However, the b&w pics that I've come across really tell another story. They just don't have the look of natural metal, unless it is a very dull natural metal (not likely I would think). They look more like silver paint to me. I guess I always assumed they were natural metal because most of the jets had natural metal leading edges. Beetle Bomb also has silver leading edges, not sure if they are paint or natural metal on that one either.
Trey, very nice color pic. Got one like that showing the later paint scheme?!
Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:32 pm
When the Blues picked up the Bearcats at Bethpage they had blue leading edges. They were also new aircraft, the only time the time has ever had new aircraft.
They performed the first Bearcat show for the Grumman employees.
Source : Butch Voris, and AMM3 Bob Boudreaux
http://www.blueangels.org/History/Voris/FirstBlu.html
http://www.blueangels.org/History/Enlis ... dreaux.htm
Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:50 pm
Ive seen them with and without a different color on the leading edge. I had a helping hand with the LSFM Bearcat. Personally like them blue.
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Elroy13 on Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:01 pm
Guys:
I would assume that you have the book "Reflections of Blue" by Carol Knotts -ISBN 0-933424-24-8?
There is a photo dated August 1946 (Grumman, Bethpage plant) showing the F8Fs in an overall color -as Rob stated, standard scheme.
4 other photos show the airplanes already with the numbers on their vertical surfaces, and U.S. Navy lettering, and there is a wing leading edge band.
Page 16 has a photo thus captioned:
"May 1949: Lt. George Hoskins and his crew chief AD1 D.R. Miller prepare for takeoff. People at the Denver Air Show were able to get a close-up view of the new paint scheme of yellow cowling name and leading edge."
Saludos,
Tulio
Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:36 pm
Elroy, thanks for the photo's of Gumby the Bearcat driver...
Cheers,
Lynn
Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:38 pm
Ralph told me that he sent the pictures of the Bearcat after it was painted off to Butch Voris shortly before he died. Butch said , " perfect ".
Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:20 pm
I was really hoping to have him see him in person for the LSFM airshow. Its very sad. But yes he did know about it before his passing.
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Elroy13 on Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:40 pm
It would have been nice.
Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:59 pm
Nice Legs Elroy
Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:14 pm
I collect on the Blue Angles, however only the Grumman F8F Bearcats they flew.
From Lynn Mc Donald, retired Historian for Grumman, I found that the leading edges of the Blue Angles' Grumman F8F Bearcats, as well as the Grumman F9F Panthers, etc., , was a product known as Corogard, a very tough coating which stayed on the applied surface, even if it was a high rate of speed.
Corogard was pioneered by Grumman and came in Aluminum and Red colors. It was the Aluminum color Corogard that was applied to the leading edges of the Blue Angles' Grumman F8F Bearcats.
Cordially,
Kenneth D. Wilson
Evansville, IN
Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:22 pm
Gumby better not fly too far with the lower cowling removed

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Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:11 pm
Geez, I would have loved to see that show. Any vintage Angels video you guys know of? The jets are amazing but I'd love to see the state of the art at that time.
Thanks,
Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:28 pm
steve dickey wrote:Gumby better not fly too far with the lower cowling removed

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He was just doing some taxi tests.
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