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Ebay Projects

Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:40 pm

No takers??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nakajima-Ki-43- ... 1986714909

Still no takers on this P-39 that has been around for a bit. Kinda surprised someone hasn't been willing to give it a shot.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-P-39Q-WWII ... 1987094351

Re: Ebay Projects

Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:57 pm

not worth it. They are complete new builds. you would only be buying the aircraft history and data plate if they have one.

Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:26 am

ALOHADAVE wrote:not worth it. They are complete new builds. you would only be buying the aircraft history and data plate if they have one.


of course they will be 90% new parts, do you think alloy lasts forever?

why do they re spar mustangs and spitfires that have less than 1000 hours on them? because alloy cracks.

look at a lot of P-39s in the museums, they paint over the melting spar caps, because planes corrode in time

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there is a lot more original aircraft there than a lot of mustangs flying these days.

i guess my PA-28 was not authentic either because over the years i had it i had to replace the rudder, a flap, a wheel, the rear spars, fuel tanks etc

Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:30 am

Spitfire P9374
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NOT AUTHENTIC
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Spitfire faithfully restored after 40-years buried French beach sells world record 3.1million $4.4M USD for such an unauthentic piece of junk. i love the armchair restorers here

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Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:39 am

ALOHADAVE wrote:not worth it. They are complete new builds. you would only be buying the aircraft history and data plate if they have one.


just for you, 100% authentic alclad Platinum fighters P-51C 100% brand new 4 foot section but owner will throw in a set of wheels he bought on ebay for the asking price of $700k

i think you should tour some resto shops like precision or pioneer...you know pretty much every single restored P-40 is 100% new right? the plane that you recover is a pattern nothing more, virtually nil metal is used from the original.

in comparison my P-39 has tons of original parts for less than 1/10th the price

Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:03 am

wingmanjim wrote:And yet fiftycal was quick to diss those who were commenting on the "Precious Metal" fire and hoping she would be restored.

Double standard much :?


not at all..precious metal was a mustang that was changed into something thats hardly a mustang, big difference.

it is a destroyed P-51 fuselage, rolls royce griffon engine, modified F-86 tail and lear jet wings....how is that even relevant?

Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:32 am

here is another P-51D project for sale now there is only a couple of original parts (2 rudder pedals) so if it will sooth you people you can all click here at the same time and tell him what an unoriginal piece of junk he has, i mean who does that better than "warbird enthusiasts" :drink3:

Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:05 am

fiftycal wrote:in comparison my P-39 has tons of original parts for less than 1/10th the price

A website? Photos? Price? Location? ... Did I miss a thread on your P-39 project somewhere? I'd love to see what you have.

Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:10 am

Mark Allen M wrote:
fiftycal wrote:in comparison my P-39 has tons of original parts for less than 1/10th the price

A website? Photos? Price? Location? ... Did I miss a thread on your P-39 project somewhere? I'd love to see what you have.


Mark,
The eBay link above has quite a few photos and details, looks interesting.

Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:12 am

Mark Allen M wrote:
fiftycal wrote:in comparison my P-39 has tons of original parts for less than 1/10th the price

A website? Photos? Price? Location? ... Did I miss a thread on your P-39 project somewhere? I'd love to see what you have.



hi mark, there are lots of parts with it plus i can provide almost everything to finish it to airworthy condition as i rebuild my own P-39D models

Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:18 am

Ah!!! got it!! ... that's yours in the ebay link. Very nice indeed. Thx gents. After a certain bent-wing is up and running ya never know. :wink:

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Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:24 am

Coastie: There are probably less than 30 shops in world and less than 2 dozen individuals that have the capability to build those projects up. Of all those, probably less than a dozen would be willing to take them on. Of those, I would bet that most are booked out so far in the future that they wouldn't commit on taking them on. The guys that I used to work with, had enough projects stacked inline that it took a couple of years to even get one into the shop. The Ki-43 would be interesting to do, but I'm booked solid for the next several years with my own stuff. I could probably think about it in maybe 2024 or so... :wink:

Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:23 am

Cvairwerks wrote:Coastie: There are probably less than 30 shops in world and less than 2 dozen individuals that have the capability to build those projects up. Of all those, probably less than a dozen would be willing to take them on. Of those, I would bet that most are booked out so far in the future that they wouldn't commit on taking them on. The guys that I used to work with, had enough projects stacked inline that it took a couple of years to even get one into the shop. The Ki-43 would be interesting to do, but I'm booked solid for the next several years with my own stuff. I could probably think about it in maybe 2024 or so... :wink:


im not rebuilding in a shop, i work with a cad engineer who is also a chief air frame engineer, another air frame engineer and a sheet metal worker, most restorations are not done in these big shops unless your someone like Paul Allen, sure the task looks daunting to begin with but you learn as you go,theres not much more complexity in the air frame than a vans RV.

Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:06 pm

not at all..precious metal was a mustang that was changed into something thats hardly a mustang, big difference.

it is a destroyed P-51 fuselage, rolls royce griffon engine, modified F-86 tail and lear jet wings....how is that even relevant?[/quote]

This is actually kind of a description of Miss Ashley II - a completely different aircraft that did not have a P-51 fuselage (it was a custom/new build fuse). PM as I understand it is an assembly of different P-51 parts, Mustang fuselage, Mustang wings, Mustang tail (P-51H vertical/rudder), etc with a Griffon on the front end. The F-86 tail stuff and Lear wings were on Miss Ashley II and before that Vendetta.

Re: Ebay Projects

Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:07 pm

not at all..precious metal was a mustang that was changed into something thats hardly a mustang, big difference.

it is a destroyed P-51 fuselage, rolls royce griffon engine, modified F-86 tail and lear jet wings....how is that even relevant?[/quote]

This is actually kind of a description of Miss Ashley II - a completely different aircraft that did not have a P-51 fuselage (it was a custom/new build fuse). PM as I understand it is an assembly of different P-51 parts, Mustang fuselage, Mustang wings, Mustang tail (P-51H vertical/rudder), etc with a Griffon on the front end. The F-86 tail stuff and Lear wings were on Miss Ashley II and before that Vendetta.
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