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Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:23 pm
Col. Rohr wrote:Now I think this settles the topic once and for all the Aircraft was has been and always will be one of the FAH aircraft.
Cheers
RER
According to the president of the FMAH (air museum) and other documents,the aircraft BuNo. 43-11728 never arrived to Honduras since it was donated to the USAF museum by Bell Aircraft in 1960.
That aircraft was one of two built that were 2-seaters.
Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:55 pm
HI DAN CHEVATAL ONCE OWNED ONE OF THE ORIGINAL 2 SEATERS,IT THEN WENT TO WALLY FISK, THEN TO BRIAN RENOLDS.HE ALSO OWNED ONE OF THE HONDURIAN P-63S,THE REMAINS OF AN A MODEL,AND THE ORIGINAL CAF P-63 THAT WAS DAMAGED BY FIRE.THANKS MIKE
Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:01 pm
Bell P-63 Dual Cabin Folks:
Looking for someone who worked, restored, flew inside these 2 Bell Model 53s Company Demos who may have drawings, pictures of the modifications and the way the extra-cabin looked inside. Tks
Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:14 pm
P-63 Folks:
Pictured below is the Bell Model 53 Co demonstrator dual-cabin modification. Reg NX41964. Photo AFM c.1959 (The X is omitted).
The sample shown is also 1 of 2 a P-63E AAF 43-11728 modified by Bell circa 1948 to place an observer during the early stages of the Bell X-1 program. (Cobra Book by B. Matthews, Bell Aircraft Corp, 1996 pg 376).
Does this aircraft looks like a P-63 trainer model? Would a P-63 student pilot be able to land this flying machine fm the back seat?
Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:00 pm
Col. Rohr:
To further substantiate our claim, none of the 5 Bell P-63Es were exported to Honduras via MAP (Military Asst Program).
All 5 samples were acquired fm private US brokers in the US circa 1948-1949. Co. Name M.P. Efferson & Associates Inc out of Washington D.C.
(Ref NARA Docs and personal e-mails of Mr. D. P. Hagedorn).
Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:41 am
Colleague FAH 503:
We are std by for your official FAH source document that links/connects Bell P-63E AAF 43-11728 to FAH inventory. We hope to see some type of hard evidence not soft or virtual stuff! 24 Hrs
p.s FYI: The 2nd - 2seater was as indicated by Helldiver Bell AAF 43-11734 once owned by Mr. D. Chvatal and now at Aerocrafters in Calif.
Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:34 am
Rob -
What was the name of the "PEACE" program where the airplanes were sent to Honduras?
Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:01 am
Rob
You, Tulio, myself and some others all have had our share of this
I am sure Scott is monitoring the proceedings here and will take action when the keg is filled to the rim.
Lets leave this profile neurotic weirdo alone - he's not worth the trouble.
In hindsight of that, I'll whizz off to a pub now
Cheers everyone
Martin
Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:26 pm
Why is this even an issue? FAH-619 has a right to be wrong. If he refuses to believe the facts presented to him then thats his option. If you don't like what he has to say then ignore him. Or present the facts as you know them and debate him. thats how we learn.
Now I have heard that this is continueing off board. If a member of this forum is threatening another member of this forum or violating the rules of the forum off line then let me know (a copy of the e-mail involved is needed as well) and I will deal with it from there.
However, I cannot and will not ban someone because there are wrong or thickheaded and everybody hates them. But this is fair warning to ALL those involved. If you violate the rules you will be banned for 30 days, no more warnings.
Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:22 pm
Well said,Scott.
Randy Haskin wrote:Rob -
What was the name of the "PEACE" program where the airplanes were sent to Honduras?
Randy:
Perhaps you refer to the program called "Peace Bonito", but this was during the 80's when the F-5s were sent to Honduras.
Regards
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