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Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:26 pm
Just wondering, I went to Pensacola in the early 90s once, and was told to go check out the survival school. Inside (I just walked right in, it sure wasn't on any tours) I found a complete F-4 nose and a PBY with the skin removed, half in and half out of the old wood building.
I assume the PBY is now in the main museum, I saw one that sure looked like it could be that one when I was last there in 2013. Is that the one? Can I assume they tore the building down to get it out?
Where's the F-4 nose now?
Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:22 am
If I remember correctly, the PBY in the museum has a description near it that tells it's history and mentions it's use as a training aid in the survival school. It was restored and put on display as a "cut-away" for visitors to be able to view the interior. Not sure about the F-4...
Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:55 pm
p51 wrote:Just wondering, I went to Pensacola in the early 90s once, and was told to go check out the survival school. Inside (I just walked right in, it sure wasn't on any tours) I found a complete F-4 nose and a PBY with the skin removed, half in and half out of the old wood building.
I assume the PBY is now in the main museum, I saw one that sure looked like it could be that one when I was last there in 2013. Is that the one? Can I assume they tore the building down to get it out?
Where's the F-4 nose now?
p51,
Here's your PBY:
http://www.pbycia.org/Photos/MooneyJD/JDMooney04.jpgI too saw this when I went to RS school there in the early 80's. A distinctly remember the PBY fuselage half in and half out of the building. A cool museum.
The display is indeed now part of the main museum.
Marauderman26
Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:16 pm
Thanks for the info. I saw the PBY a couple of years ago on the fastest spin through the museum a person can make (I was with my wife and she was NOT very happy, I practically saw the museum at a jogging speed, I never stopped except to take photos and never made to the hangar in the back with the Marine One helicopter in it). But even then I thought to myself, "That's got to the be the one i saw in the late 80s). My big regret when seeing it in the survival school was not walking outside to see what it looked like on the outside of the building as the exterior wall seemed to go down the centelrine of that PBY.
I sure hope that F-4 nose found a good home somewhere. I'm sort of thinking there might have been another cockpit there as well but could be wrong about that. I do recall at least one ejection seat sitting in that room, though.
I did find info on the history of it here:
http://www.navalaviationmuseum.org/hist ... y-cutaway/
Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:28 pm
The National Naval Aviation Museum's website is one of the best for giving a detailed background on each aircraft along with nice pictures of the planes. In many instances, they show you 'before and after' type pictures. The PBY is a great example.
It's always frustrating to go to a museum website, look up an aircraft, and find one small picture or worse; a generic file photo...
Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:08 pm
APG85 wrote:The National Naval Aviation Museum's website is one of the best for giving a detailed background on each aircraft along with nice pictures of the planes. In many instances, they show you 'before and after' type pictures. The PBY is a great example.
It's always frustrating to go to a museum website, look up an aircraft, and find one small picture or worse; a generic file photo...
I agree (as most others would as well, I'd think). It didn't even occur to me to look on their site for the reasons you just mentioned, as I never expected to see such good info. I found that link while looking for photos on Google of the PBY in question and found shots that linked me to the museum site...
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