This is the place where the majority of the warbird (aircraft that have survived military service) discussions will take place. Specialized forums may be added in the new future
Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:50 pm
Apologies if this has already been posted...
Photos and video here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... years.html
Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:48 am
Crew of 4??????? 2 maybe 3 depending on model
Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:19 pm
the Russian steppes & vast near arctic waste land is no different than remote pacific islands. the world is getting smaller, but the wreck finds are becoming more numerous!!
Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:55 am
The "discovered" long-missing lend-lease Douglas A-20 that went down on a mountain ridge between Krasnoyarsk and Novosibirsk may be one that disappeared 6/12/1943. My research on this was brief and the list I have of A-20 accidents along the ALSIB Route that occurred in Siberia did not include AAF serial numbers but the list is not that long. I'll provide a link to the 2-page list and draw attention to item #86 (pilot-Ivan Ivanovich Zalomin-5th aviation regiment) and crew members listed #87 (pilot-Ivan Apkhipovich-5th a.d.), #88 (pilot-Georgy Ivanov-5th a.d.), and #89 (radio operator-Georgy Nikolaevich-5th a.d.). The A-20 while being ferried North to Alaska by 7th Ferrying Group (USAAF) pilots was almost always by pilot alone, in the early going there was often a flight-engineer/radio operator but became less frequent as pilots became familiar with the route. After the A-20 was handed over to the Soviets in Fairbanks, Alaska for forward ferrying by Soviet crews it was common for a twin-engined plane (A-20 or B-25) to act as lead-ship for a flight of half-a-dozen or more P-39 Airacobra(s) or P-63 Kingcobra(s). The lead aircraft would attend to navigational duties and were almost always crewed by more than the pilot, sometimes even transferring personnel between bases. Four on board might be slightly unusual but not impossible. Link to list:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/23057174@N02/15133486456/
Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:38 am
Yes TriangleP… the list of WWII Douglas A-20 crashes that occurred on the Soviet portion of the Alaska-Siberia route was compiled as part of my book research. My dad was not a ferry pilot with the USAAF or with the RCAF but rather served in the Canadian navy on HMCS Prince Roberts (South Pacific). Thanks for your kind words about pics and art work!
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