Any chance of a flying NA 64 (Yale) in German WWII colours?

[redvanner]

Do you believe it possible any of the operators of an airworthy Yale might paint their bird in German WW II colours? Germany used the captured French ones quite intensively as advanced trainers. I would love to see one painted as they were when operated by the Luftwaffe. Another one that might look different would be the Curtiss 75 Hawk, though there are very few left, so I doubt it. Another possibility (given the numbers still in airworthy condition) would be an AT-6 or CCF Harvard, though not operated by Luftwaffe in WW II, it would be a compromise. Your thoughts?

Michael

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[shrike]

Taken at the 2012 Copperstate Flyin in Arizona

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[groundpounder]

You wouldn't want to know my thoughts on that one.

[shepsair]

Just been completed. Same plane but now fully restored/painted.

http://www.trivalleycentral.com/casa_gr ... mage&photo

Great job by Mike.

regards

MS

[DH82EH]

I like it!

See how easy that was Michael? All you had to do was ask!

Now if we can just work on that powder blue P-51

Andy Scott

[shrike]

You wouldn't want to know my thoughts on that one.

I'd say it offers a glimpse into an otherwise obscure bit of history. When I first saw it, I thought "bad movie scheme", but it prompted me to do a little research.

[redvanner]

Just been completed. Same plane but now fully restored/painted.

http://www.trivalleycentral.com/casa_gr ... mage&photo

Great job by Mike.

regards

MS

Thanks for the link. That is exactly what I had in mind, great to see at least one in those colours. Seems to be very accurately done, good work, I love it.

I like it!

See how easy that was Michael? All you had to do was ask!

Now if we can just work on that powder blue P-51

Andy Scott

Right you are, Andy. Good I asked, wasn´t it? Well, the pics might have surfaced sometime anyway, but now it´s in the right thread.
And the blue Mustang..., well, we´ll see what the owner will do. But not this year, as he started the season a few weeks ago. BTW he did a lot of flying last year, but no aerobatics due to insurance regulations. They demand certain hours on type before you are allowed to perform aerobatics, this year he definitely will perform on several airshows.

Michael

[Stoney]

Why does it have a BT-13 cowl?

[rcaf_100]

Why does it have a BT-13 cowl?

Mike has a P&W R-985 installed vs the original Wright R-975E-3.

Personally, I'd much rather see Yales painted in a French Armée de l'Air/Aéronavale or Luftwaffe scheme than these psuso-USAAC BT-9/BT-14 paint jobs out there. (cough...cough...Dayton...cough)

I remember reading somewhere about a Yale (originally beautifully restored to original 1940 RCAF markings) converted to a R-985, given a generic USAAC blue and yellow finish, and passed off as a BT-14 ("We don't use that 'Y' word anymore" is what I remember hearing)
There's a bit more involved than swapping just out the engine! The outer wings were similar to the later AT-6/Harvard Mk II style without the straight trailing edge, the elevators were the later style without the piano hinges on the trim tabs, and the instrument panels/cockpit fittings were different as well. It's almost like saying that if I install an Allison V-1710 on a P-51D, I'd have a P-51A! Ummm, no...

As a point of interest, the NA-64 Prototype (NAA-64 P2 No 1, NX13397, to RCAF as 3464) has been restored in it's original Armée de l'Air markings and regained its original NAA flight testing registration (NX13397). Last I heard she was in Texas with Ray Kirkpatrick.

[jtramo]

I think that "BT-14" is currently on eBay!

[DaveM2]

[AviaS199]

If James Garner had stolen this airplane instead of the Bucker, he'd have made it to Switzerland for sure!

[Russ Matthews]

Do you believe it possible any of the operators of an airworthy Yale might paint their bird in German WW II colours? Another possibility (given the numbers still in airworthy condition) would be an AT-6 or CCF Harvard ...

You mean like this?

[Roger Cain]

The Condor Squadron in southern Calif, has half a dozen T-6's painted up in German WWII markings, used for shows.

[Russ Matthews]

The Condor Squadron in southern Calif, has half a dozen T-6's painted up in German WWII markings, used for shows.

True. In fact, the T-6 featured in the pic I posted above is one of them.

http://www.condorsquadron.org/