redundant AT-6F Harvards/Texans in the late fifties; auction

[BennoT6]

Hi all,

Was wondering if someone would be able to help, to find out where the AT-6F Texans came from, when these were registered for DLB in 1957/1958. In those days also a number of AT-6F Texans(Harvards) were registered in France, for the Air France training.

In my records all those T-6s, French and German, are listed as having been used by the USA(A)F in Europe (e.g. WW2 9AF, postwar 406FBW Manston). Obviously they became redundant in the (late) fifties and they were probably sold at a kind of auction. The German registered AT-6F Texans were: D-FAMA, FAMU, FATI, FDEM, FDOK, FIBA and FOTO. The Air France Texans were F-BJBP / F-BJBV.

I expect this auction having been somewhere in Germany (where they were stored?). Who knows?

Feedback very much appreciated.

Regards,

Benno (The Netherlands)

[BennoT6]

Hi all,

Just for the record. These are the identities:

Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42412 44-81690, F-BJBT, OO-JBT
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42433 44-81711, D-FIBA
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42441 44-81719, D-IDOK, D-FDOK
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42449 44-81727, D-FATI
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42452 44-81730, F-BJBU, OO-JBU
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42459 44-81737, D-FAMA
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42480 44-81758, F-BJBP, OO-JBP
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42497 44-81775, F-BJBS, OO-JBS
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42500 44-81778, D-IDEM, D-FDEM, (PH-HAR), D-FDEM
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42507 44-81785, D-FAMU, 1792(PortAF)
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42511 44-81789, F-BJBV, OO-JBV
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42512 44-81790, F-BJBQ, OO-JBQ
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42513 44-81791, F-BJBR, OO-JBR
Texan, North American AT-6F-NT 121 -42517 44-81795, D-FOTO, 1795(PortAF)

Does this ring a bell?

Regards,

Benno

[JohnB]

Where did the T-6s used as German fighters in the film "Where Eagles Dare" come from...Germany, France, or Switzerland (if they had any, I don't know off the top of my head)?

[Ollie]

They were from the Swiss AF.

[redvanner]

Where did the T-6s used as German fighters in the film "Where Eagles Dare" come from...Germany, France, or Switzerland (if they had any, I don't know off the top of my head)?

Ollie is absolutely correct. I have been at the filming site at Aigen airfield (Austria) just when the filmcrew left. All those former Swiss AF T-6 used in the film were scrapped after filming was finished, saw them prior to and when being loaded on trucks of a scrapmetal company.
BTW the Ju 52 was Swiss AF as well.

Michael

[BennoT6]

Hi Gents,

Yes, the "Where Eagles Dare" T-6s were former Swiss Air Force Noorduyn AT-16-ND Harvard IIBs:

14 - 168 42- 631(USAAF), FE434(RAF), FE434(RCAF), U-311(SwissAF)
sold for filmwork 19680226 ("Where Eagles Dare")

14 - 28 42- 491(USAAF), FE294(RAF), FE294(RCAF), U-315(SwissAF)
sold for filmwork 19680226 ("Where Eagles Dare")

14 - 24 42- 487(USAAF), FE290(RAF), FE290(RCAF), U-317(SwissAF)
sold for filmwork 19680226 ("Where Eagles Dare")

14 - 47 42- 510(USAAF), FE313(RAF), FE313(RCAF), U-327(SwissAF)
crashed 19650220 Aletschgletscher; repaired with parts of U-320; sold for filmwork 19680226 ("Where Eagles Dare")

Regards,

Benno