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B-52 -- Flight after loss of Rudder and Fin, 1964

Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:01 pm

Maybe most people have seen this, but I hadn't and found it impressive. This crew had their $hit together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJuEAQbx ... 5&index=43

It's from this site, a collection of USAF training films on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8F26D920AA815835

Dave

Re: B-52 -- Flight after loss of Rudder and Fin, 1964

Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:09 pm

Dave Hadfield wrote:Maybe most people have seen this, but I hadn't and found it impressive. This crew had their $hit together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJuEAQbx ... 5&index=43

It's from this site, a collection of USAF training films on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8F26D920AA815835

Dave

I.......just.......love....those......training.........films.....with......the......commentators.......smooth.......conversational.....style.....of.......delivery........'help,........I'm........on.........fire.........' :rofl:
Watching these stilted, stiff films is a great way to learn how to give a smooth, easy going delivery style, that worked for me as an instructor-tell 'em what your gonna tell them tell them what they're hearing, tell 'em what you told them.
You also have to understand that if I say 100 words to you in a training environment. you will only recall 10 of those words, so you learn to bust the pitch up into tiny bites and if you can tack on personal experiences as a lead in or tail off, so much the better-I loved being an instructor. :supz:

Re: B-52 -- Flight after loss of Rudder and Fin, 1964

Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:29 pm

Vertical fins and rudders are over rated, just ask Jack Northrop ! :shock:

Re: B-52 -- Flight after loss of Rudder and Fin, 1964

Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:01 pm

RickH wrote:Vertical fins and rudders are over rated, just ask Jack Northrop ! :shock:

What do you suppose the long, flat sided prop housings on the XB-35 and the forest of verticals were for on the XB-49? Now it's done by computers and tip clamshell rudders-

Re: B-52 -- Flight after loss of Rudder and Fin, 1964

Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:07 pm

Split ailerons were on the N9m and XB35/YB-49. The same mechanism was also used to split the Shuttle rudder.

Re: B-52 -- Flight after loss of Rudder and Fin, 1964

Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:26 pm

How about the mustaches on the col. and the Boeing Pilot? Cool Do any airforce pilots have mustaches these days?

Re: B-52 -- Flight after loss of Rudder and Fin, 1964

Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:32 am

Relative to the B-35s, their propellers also provided lateral stability - to a surprising degree - and that is a factor in the stability issues with the B-49, which obviously lacked them.
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