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Flying Wings

Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:52 am

Flying Wings Folks:

Good day!

..another interesting concept about flying. Northrop N-1M for now!! c. 1940s!! VIa AEC.

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Re: Flying Wings

Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:50 am

Actually, this is the Northrop N-1M, one of the single seat prototype lying wings. Only one of this model was built and this image was probably taken sometime after May of 1942 judging from the style of the National Insignia star on the wing. It still exists in the NASM collection.
Jerry
More here: http://airandspace.si.edu/collections/a ... 9600302000

Re: Flying Wings

Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:29 am

Jerry:

Tks for the info & data. Did he use the engine support structure as vertical stabs??

Re: Flying Wings

Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:56 pm

My grandfather's cousin worked for Northrup on the YB version of the flying wing. He told my Dad that it was a joy to work on and watch fly.

Tom P.

Re: Flying Wings

Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:23 pm

zorro9 wrote:Jerry:

Tks for the info & data. Did he use the engine support structure as vertical stabs??


That wasn't the purpose, but I'm sure they acted that way. The engines were high to keep the props off the ground during takeoff and landing.

Re: Flying Wings

Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:20 pm

The wing tips were adjustable on the ground and could be canted down in an anhedral to test the feasibility of the design.

Re: Flying Wings

Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:35 pm

Another groovy design, thx for starting a thread on these guys, always liked the flying wing designs. Some U.S. Air Force photos of the Northtrop YB-49 flying wing

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Re: Flying Wings

Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:55 pm

Northrop survivors include the N1M in the NASM, the N9MB (in Chino) and the JB-1 Bat (last seen at the Western Museum of Flight).

http://wmof.com/jb1.htm

POF in Chino also has a Horten IV glider on display.

The last YB-49 was scrapped at Ontario Airport in the late 1950s I believe.

Re: Flying Wings

Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:26 pm

I would also consider the Vought Pancake and Flapjack flying wing designs, no?

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Re: Flying Wings

Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:15 pm

Perhaps similar in ways for sure .... I find both ideas to be interesting and quite visionary for the times.

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Northrop MX-334 flying wing mounted in the Full Scale Wind Tunnel

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Vought-Sikorsky V-173 airplane mounted in the Full Scale Wind Tunnel

Re: Flying Wings

Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:58 pm

MarK:

Good day!

Tks. Nice shots of the YB-49 Flying wings. 2 & 4 engines concepts for better performance. Is it true that all these wings had low radar signatures??

p.s What was the final outcome of the MX-334 concept?? I'd have volunteer to have gone for a spin in that one! I do not know about the flying pancakes!!

Re: Flying Wings

Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:17 am

Flying Wings (UAVs) Folks:

...the way of things to come!! We are only seeing the beginning the engineers said!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Z2vpnbEbXc

Re: Flying Wings

Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:47 pm

Being the 'Northrop Brat' that I am (Dad worked for them for years, as did an Aunt) I have always loved the Flying Wings!!!
So seeing the PoF N-9MB at El Cajon many years ago was like nothing I can put into words.
I just hope I get to see that P-61 fly some day. :supz:

As for the lack of tails on the piston powered wings-
I always thought it had to do with the use of counter-rotating props.
Is that not what let them get away with no tails?

Re: Flying Wings

Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:11 pm

What an absolute shame that the XF5U-1 was never allowed to fly. I can only imagine how angry and dissapointed the engineers who worked on the project must have been when the perfectly serviceable prototype was scrapped. Only in politics.

On a happier note, here are some of my pics of the PoF N9MB which is an absolutely unique sight and sound and something that I never get tired of.

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Re: Flying Wings

Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:51 pm

Mark Allen M wrote:Another groovy design, thx for starting a thread on these guys, always liked the flying wing designs. Some U.S. Air Force photos of the Northtrop YB-49 flying wing

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This one is YRB-49A, note 4 engines in rear and 1 pod just visible in front.
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