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Lakefront Lockheeds

Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:02 pm

Friend of mine sent me these pictures today from Lakefront airport in New Orleans. Looks like a Loadstar went turtle and a PV2 has been moved but at least stayed on its wheels.

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Lakefront

Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:38 am

Rob,

I have no idea. That is why I posted them here... maybe find out the story behind them. Mainly the PV2. Looks like the ailerons and flaps are off.

Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:23 am

I saw this on CNN yesterday,but was in a resteraunt,so I missed the dialogue.

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:02 am

Hmm,

Are we certain the blue unit is a Harpoon? The photo isn't very clear, but the vertical stabs don't look quite right.

(Of course my eyesight isn't quite what it used to be...) :shock:

Re: Lakefront

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:12 am

C170BDan wrote:Rob,

I have no idea. That is why I posted them here... maybe find out the story behind them. Mainly the PV2. Looks like the ailerons and flaps are off.


Hey Dan-

That isn't a PV-2, I think it is a Howard 500. I believe that it (and the Lodestar) are owned by Taylor Energy, or at one time were.

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:33 am

I agree with Tim, it certainly looks like a Howard 500, though I've never heard of one with a 3-bladed prop before.

Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:34 pm

dj51d wrote:I agree with Tim, it certainly looks like a Howard 500, though I've never heard of one with a 3-bladed prop before.


I believe that would make it a Howard 350 with R-2600's

John

Lockheeds

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:25 pm

Ah... I see... saw the big engines and blue paint and assumed PV2! I have heard the name Taylor Energy and them owning Lockheeds before.

Thanks...

Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:05 pm

Taylor energy did own a Howard 500, and a Harpoon among other aircraft when I was there 3 years ago. It was the first time I ever saw a Howard 500. It was a little larger than I imagined. It was in the process of being restored. It was in pretty rough shape though as well as bare aluminum.

Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:20 pm

Tim is correct. The blue plane has been Howardized (I believe it is a Howard 350), but it was a PV-1 Ventura and was last registered N234P. It is one of the few surviving PV-1s that flew with the RCAF. Wish I had the funds to buy it, convert it back to a PV-1, paint it back to its RCAF markings, and put it on the circuit. Venturas just don't get any respect.

Jim

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:31 pm

Some nice Venturas in South Africa if anybody needs one including some Ex Canuck ones i believe

regards
John P

Lockheeds at Lakefront Airport

Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:20 pm

The overturned aircraft is a Lockheed 18 Lodestar owned by Pat Taylor of Taylor Energy. The two tone blue aircraft is a Howard 350. Pat also has a Howard 500 in one of the hangars.

Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:56 pm

Taylor Energy have owned four large Lockheeds in recent years. The former RCAF machine is a Howard Super Ventura-the Howard 500 is a former RAF PV-1 Ventura and they have had two Lodestars.

Lakefront Lockheeds

Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:48 pm

David J Burke wrote:Taylor Energy have owned four large Lockheeds in recent years. The former RCAF machine is a Howard Super Ventura-the Howard 500 is a former RAF PV-1 Ventura and they have had two Lodestars.


David, of the latter mentioned 2 Lodestars..one of those was actually
Learstar N631LS c/n-2404 sold on to Sam Brunetto late 1999.
www.airliners.net/open.file/118970/M/


What I've got so far on the Taylor Energy Lockheed's of recent years..

Lockheed 18-56/Learstar c/n-2404 N631LS, photo in 1998 pre-sale..
www.airliners.net/open.file/667738/M/

Lockheed 18-56/Howard 250 c/n-2459 N250X still on register belonging to
Aus Ex Inc., San Marcos,Texas but residing Lakefront. No photo.

PV-1 Ventura/Howard 350 c/n-5336, N234P
fmr BuNo-33327, fmr RCAF-2198
www.airliners.net/open.file/667695/M/
I presume one of the Lockheeds I'm missing a photo of is behind the
Ventura. The other photo-missing bird may have left it's mark on
the ramp by the massive oil belchings in the foreground of the Ventura.


Howard 500(c/n-500-110), c/n-5793, N5831Y, fmr N515N, no photo

David, I haven't been able to backtrack the H500 to RAF PV-1,
although it's c/n-5793 falls within the numbers block provided by Baugher,
if I'm interpreting his list correctly. Can you fill in the blanks here?
Thanks..
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