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Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:27 pm
Found a link to photos of this museum in Germany with a bunch of old derelict MiGs and what may be an F-104 on display:
http://www.myheimat.de/bad-oeynhausen/f ... 78798.htmlOne of the comments on the board where I found the link was interesting:
The museum is in a real bad condition, several Soviet military planes, helicopters, tanks and trucks as well as smaller Wehrmacht tanks are rusting in the open air (according to the site I linked), the most rare exponats are a North American P-47 Thunderbolt and a Junkers Ju-88 found in a lake in the Netherlands.
So, can anyone verify this?
Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:57 pm
It's a collection of wreckage, not a complete airframe.
Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:55 pm
I didn't see a p-47 or ju88 I saw mug 21's a 23 and a l29. What pic is the 47 and 88 in?
Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:31 am
They aren't in the photos; just referred to by the person who made the comment. Just hoping someone has seen or can verify ID on the remains (which hopefully are inside the building).
Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:38 am
wow that thing is torn to bits sure hope the pilot bailed out.
Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:40 am
Yes, but we have all seen planes in worse condition than this arise from the ashes; and piles of money
Tom P
Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:36 pm
Unfortunately, the pilot did not bail out.
That's Frank D. Gallion's P-47D, 334th FS, 4th FG. He crashed on november 3d 1943 in the IJsselmeer (body of water in the center of the Netherlands), just a few 100 yards off the coast. The plane was raised from the water on Feb. 11, 1995, but broke into pieces during the operation.
Here is a nice site (to train your Dutch - google translate may be a gift!)
http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/top/v/p-47D.htm
Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:58 pm
Not too much worse than some of the Thunderbolts WestPac has to restore.
Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:57 am
Any photos of the Ju88?
Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:05 pm
acht da lieber!! a german walter soplata??

..... that museum is definetely in a residential neighborhood!!
Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:53 pm
bdk wrote:Not too much worse than some of the Thunderbolts WestPac has to restore.
The owner of one of those told me that his will eventually be built as a flier.
I wish they would start; I'm getting older fast, and I would love to
see another flying P-47 added to the way-too-short list of flying 'Bolts before I'm gone...........
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